Wanna See an Old-Fashioned Coin Cabinet (with coins)??
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Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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<< <i>How can you ever fit a slab in there??
You cut around the corners until it fits.
K S
Any opinions?
Now, where can I get one? How many coins does it hold? What kind of wood is used?
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If the cabinet is for sale and/or the two bust halves at the bottom of the page...I am a buyer.
I have a coin cabinet but am looking for one for my dad.
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Nice! Got a pic of it with the doors closed? I'm just curious as to how it looks closed up.
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<< <i>How much and how fast will a coin tone in a cabinet like that?
Any opinions? >>
You really "get it!". Excellent question. Well, I guess everyone known my opinion, and the data I have supplied from the Art Conservation Center at the University of Denver, the Library of Congress, Coin Chemistry by W. White, The Merck Index of Substances, the Intercept Patent and the opinion of some conservator from Coin World which I have referenced in the past. MrSpud has even more sources.
I paste below the relevant information for those who haven't seen it; since this writing several have gotten refunds on PCGS wood boxes:
WOOD:
<< <i>From Redlines conversation with Mr. David Scott, Head Curator of Metals at the Getty Conservation Institute "If you want to display your cars, do not, I repeat DO NOT, display them in wooden display cases, especially ones with unpainted/unvarnished surfaces. Doesn’t matter what kind of wood — just don’t do it. If you currently have cars in such a case, I highly recommend you remove them AT ONCE. The organic acids from the wood will really eat away at the cars, particularly if the case closes fairly airtight. >>
Hi there
I saw your post and thought you might be interested in some information about storing metal in wood I have been posting since around the time the PCGS wood boxes were issued. I love coins, have been involved in various areas of conservation for 18 years or so and know from related experience that wood can cause "toning" on metal - I think it will be shown to be a matter of how much - not if. Slabs are not hermetically sealed and will be exposed to the outgassing or various organic acids and other harmful fumes from the wood itself, the adhesives used in construction and even the fabric can be harmful - especially if in an uncontrolled or concentrated environment such as a deposit box. How well the newer slabs will hold out against the incursion of acidic fumes is unknown, but that they are not airtight is known. Wood is, in short, not the best choice. The display cases made by member SOLID are great IMHO because they are open displays - and they do suggest you do not store the wooden part in a safe or deposit box - just the aluminum tray (anodized aluminum is the material of choice for long term storage). At least 1 person concerned about this who contacted PCGS has already been offered a refund for his PCGS wooden boxes as "there will be no short term answer", and I heard from Mr. Hall that accelerated testing would take a month or two and we will be made aware of the results - unfortunately it seems they were not subjected to testing pior to marketing. There are also a few questions in the Q+A about this topic from myself and another. Several people have made excellent posts - Frattlaw showed with pics what I was writing about - slabs do not provide complete protection in the presence of acetic acid - which is found in wood - especially oak which the PCGS boxes seem to made out of. Oak emits up to 5% of its weight in acetic acid. MrSpud has written excellent posts about the chemical aspects of toning as well as raising awreness of the book Coin Chemistry by W. White. As I said in an earlier post - even if storage in wood is said to be 90% safe with 90% certainty, why risk a collection that has taken time, effort and money to assemble? Because they are pretty is not enough reason for me. And, no one has yet posted any BENEFITS at all of storage coins in wood to my knowledge.
Best,
Billy
CARING FOR YOUR METAL OBJECTS
The American Institute for Conservation of Historic & Artistic Works
Prepared by Julie A. Reilly with assistance from David Harvey and Julie Lauffenburger, 2001.
"The characteristic tarnish on silver is black silver sulfide. Acidic gasses from wooden cabinets and cases can also cause metal corrosion. Vapors produced by plywood and other products that off-gas formaldehyde cause lead alloys and other metals to corrode, forming wispy white crystals often confused with mold growth. Keeping metal objects in a clean, dry, safe environment can prevent deterioration from environmental sources."
"Metals, in general, should be stored with inert storage materials. For example, metal cabinets and shelving should be used rather than wood cabinets and shelving. As discussed earlier, many woods and wood products, like plywood, emit acids and other gasses that cause metals to corrode. Acidic newsprint and cardboard boxes should be avoided. Acid-free, lignin-free wrapping paper and boxes are better. Clean, soft cotton cloth can also be used."
and:
Link to Data - if this doesnt convice you there is potential for harm from wood boxes nothing will
"Original" Wood Post (sent to Mr. Hall Aug 5th, responded Sept. 14th....just 3 days after my ORIGINAL Poll (below) closed where 78.79% voted "wood has the potential to harm coins")
Original PCGS Wood Poll Thread (more data)
Link To Another Wood Thread
Edited to add: If that is regular felt under thise coins than this is really not a good idea!
Two things. First, I wouldn't keep superb gem coins loose in a cabinet. Second, what makes you think I'm not already in a strait jacket?
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<< <i>First, I wouldn't keep superb gem coins loose in a cabinet >>
Me neither. That's what God made cigar boxes for.
As to the strait jacket, since this is a COIN forum, I make the assumption that EVERY poster is either confined or, if posting, on leave or in the process of an escape.
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