Guess the grade on this 1803 bust dollar - Grade posted

ER

BTW, NOT mine.

ms70

Make that XF45,

longtimecollector

my eye says 55-58........ I bet the holder says 61-62

wam98

I believe the coin would be graded MS by the grading services. Looks AU to me though. Nice one BTW.

numobri

Looks like a nice AU to me,kinda hard to tell being so dark. Sure looks like there is alot of luster on it.

I'd buy it.

cmanbb

The scans are a bit dark, but........................

PCGS AU53
NGC AU58

BillJones

I would say that the coin is an AU, but if the photo is accurate, the toning on the obverse is not the type of color that I like to see.

Here is an early dollar with an interesting history and pedigree. This is one of the finest known examples of the 1800 Bolender-20 silver dollar. It was the discovery piece for the variety, and the obverse is plated in Bolender’s classic work on early dollar die varieties. Bolender thought that there were fewer than 10 known examples of this piece, but Bowers estimates 20 to 40 are known.

This is listed in Bower’s silver dollar reference as the finest known, but I believe that there is another example that is just a nice. Its official “old time” grade was EF-45. Today it is in an NCG AU-58 holder with the citations on it that indicate that it is the Bolender specimen and plate coin.

The color is a very pleasing light gray, with considerable luster in the fields as well as between the devices. The center is a bit weak because the obverse die, which apparently failed early on, was sinking in the center.

I’ve owned this piece since I purchased it at the 1976 ANA Convention, which was held in New York City.

dorkkarl

looks damaged to me, but if not, i guess au-50.

K S

Merc

There is no way that is a MS coin like some posters have stated. You can see the wear easily. The toning on the obverse looks a bit odd. I don't see luster so I can't give it an AU. Ef45.

Colorfulcoins

AU

mgoodm3

I would go for AU

Baley

Yep, put me in the AU50 column. Too nice for EF, not nice enough for MS60,
I could make a case for AU55, maybe, If I was the one taking the pictures

relayer

45ish - maybe higher depending if you can see more of the coin in hand

ER

1803 Large 3 variety, B-6, BB-255, in ICG holder AU58. This is from Heritage site 's upcoming FUN. I know it 's hard to grade from a photo/scan, but still I can 't agree with the grade ( even after blowup image ). If you want a real 58, look at Cardinal 's coin on his earlydollars.org site. I would give the present coin a 50, no way a 58. The hair details are just not there, and the left-sided stars are much flatter. JMO.

Bill, your coin is a beauty, BTW.

ARCO

Reverse looks AU, but the obverse seems more worn like a solid XF. XF45-AU50.

Tyler

BillJones

As a said in my first post, I don't like the obverse of the coin that started this thread.

There is usually a reason why a coin is in an ICG holder. Quite often the reason is that the coin could not get into the same grade or perhaps not even IN a holder from "the big two."

That's not to say that all Bust Dollars in "the big two" holders are OK. Not all of them are, but you chances of getting a properly graded coin are much better.