Seated Half grade opinions needed

fivecents

Attached below is a 1861 Seated half fresh out of a long held collection. Please give me grade opinions on this half. I want to get it fitted for a plastic suit at Newport Beach, Cali. Thanks in advance.

edited for spelling

IndianHeadMan

damn good!!!!... hard to tell if dipped or cleaned from the pic.

fivecents

Indianhead....Sorry about the photo. It is VERY original and undipped.
edited to add...It also has nice luster.

tjkillian

Extremely nice half dollar!! It looks like a MS-65 from what I can see. Absolutely gorgeous. Send it to PCGS at once. They will give you their opinion for a small fee.

Tom

p.s. Damn nice half, I'm jealous!

lazeroo

this is one of those toss up coins. looks good, very nice detail, and for the most part clean.

I call it a very nice AU-58 ,or ms63.
depending on the graders day.

ARCO

I would say the coin looks to be a nice Gem, MS65.

Tyler

ziggy29

Nice coin. It looks a lot like the 1862 Seated Half in my own type set. It appears to have that nice original-looking frosty gray sheen over the luster.

Minimum, AU-58 if there's a little rub. If not, probably about MS-64, maybe even 65 depending on underlying luster. There are very few hits compared to a typical Seated half. This appears to be a very nice coin. Even if this coin is a technical 58, it's probably worth an MS-62 bid.

jdimmick

Ms-63 to 64 depending on luster?

mgoodm3

My first thought was 64.

fivecents

Thanks for the comments. When I get it holdered I will post the grade.

coinkat

submit the coin... It is attractive, it looks original and worthy of a 64 with a shot at 65

Elcontador

A No Motto Half in 5 is worth serious money. A few suggestions:

1) Look carefully at the coin. Is that wear on the eagle's beak, or is it the lighting?
2) Is that wear on the eagle's rt. wingtip (to the viewer's lt.,) or is that just how the coin was struck?
3) Is that wear on Miss Liberty's rt. knee (to the viewer's left)? Can't tell from the pic.

Is the pic the coin's actual color? I'd tend to think not; the pic looks like an indoor photo taken with a flash, with too much yellow-orange color.

The coin has a good strike and clean surfaces, but with that stuff around the head, I don't see it in a 5 holder. The No Motto Halves I've seen have lots of eye appeal. The TPGs will cut you some slack re Miss Liberty's head not being fully struck and the nearby stars being soft. A few minor tickmarks or hairlines seem to be okay as well.

Coinosaurus

I can't tell if this coin has ANY luster or not. My guess is not, and hopefully for fivecents I am wrong.

sadysta1

if it's problem free it's a 62

roadrunner

Th luster fades a bit going from the outer devices into the open fields. Hence I think a 63 or 64 rating makes more sense. But depth of luster and marks drive the grade. The photos are not clear enough to judge those. The coin is definitely unc with no wear, just the usual high point chatter that all early halves tend to have.
Good luck, hope you get that 65.

roadrunner

fivecents

elcontador...1. No wear on beak 2.The wing tip is Weak struck 3. No wear on the knee.
coinosaurus...I tried to reshoot the coin. Attached below. The coin does have luster I just can't image it.

roadrunner

Looks nicer in these pics. Luster still hard to see. But appears to be 63+ to 65. My gut feel is that the reverse luster may be broken a tad. the strike on this is excellent - Lib's head and the stars are essentially fully up. If one gets caught up looking at weak wing tips, just go to the eagle's knuckles and arrow head shafts/tips. Those are perfectly struck and bold. They would normally show slight wear too if the wingtips did.

roadrunner

Elcontador

Many Seated and Capped Bust Unc. coins have a weak strike on the eagle's rt wing (to the viewer's lt). Agree w Roadrunner; the overall strike is excellent on this coin. Also agree with his assessment of what makes a 5 in this series. Once you have an Unc. coin, eye appeal carries the day. They'll weigh this more heavily than strike and this coin's clean surfaces.

fivecents

The luster on the reverse is not as good compared to the obverse. The obverse luster has a creamy white look to it. Thanks again for all the input.

IndianHeadMan

Any word on this grade?

tsacch

Try to change the setting on your camera to the light your using, it should capture the coin better and either use more light or allow the aperture to stay open longer...........if you can.

Nice coin..........63?