My new safe ---- highly recommend!!!!

TonedPeaceNut

For all of those thinking about buying a home safe, I just got this one delivered today. While it might not provide the absolute best in regards to theft or fire protection, it has plenty of storage and fits well into a closet or even a smaller room. I was just looking for a decent safe to stop a quick B&E type of robbery.

There are better out there, but for the price it works for me. It can hold more that 50 PCGS/NGC slab boxes with room for albums as well.




TPN

TommyType

Oooooh...I like. I'm outgrowing mine as we speak.

I won't ask how much....but where did you get it? Locksmith special, or was it from a retail store?

poorguy

Thanks for showing me a picture of it. Now I know exactly what to look for when my super-villan plan comes to fruition.

jk


Nice safe. How heavy is it?

TommyType

<< <i>Thanks for showing me a picture of it. Now I know exactly what to look for when my super-villan plan comes to fruition.
>>



You mean you wouldn't have figured out it was a safe without the pictures? Your super-villan plan needs plenty of work.

Sandhawk

Melmcbee

That is beautiful TPN. Do you and most of the forum members keep your coins at home or in a safety deposit box or something else. I can't wait I am going to have a beautiful collection one day and have a special safe like this one to keep it in.

dixfer

That photo reminds me....I haven't been protecting my binoculars from burglars all these years!

poorguy

Your super-villan plan needs plenty of work.

Or does it?

Muhaahaha!



I need to set parental controls on this website and lock myself out so I can get some work done. Sheesh.

TonedPeaceNut

I got it from a local safe store -- it was on special for $369.00 and it weighs more than 1 person can lift. Even 2 would have a really hard time with it. It isn't meant to deter supervillians such as poorguy. Matter of fact even less than supervillians could probably get into it with some hard work, muscle and a lot of time, but by then my alarms should have sounded and my private security should have arrived to really deter any theft.

Safes -- like locks are really intended to keep out the stupid thieves. The smart ones will always get what they want. But usually though, smarter theives aren't looking to break into homes, they want more expensive -- easier to carry and fence goods.

If I were a supervillian I'd be looking to knock over a jewlery store. More $$$$$ and easier to fence loose stones than household goods.


TPN

Newmismatist

You gota lock you cameras up you must live in a really tough neighborhood!

Proofquarter

I went to a Police auction and they had lots of safes up for bid. Spend the money and have one built in cement if you want one.

Colorfulcoins

A good friend of mine had a safe in his house - tucked away in a closet. He works nights and was at home during the day sleeping when a noise awoke him. He found 2 guys tugging his safe down the hallway. They ran but he caught one of them (must have been a sight). His safe weighed about 600 pounds (including contents) and perhaps the only reason he woke up was that they were having a hard time getting it thru a hall doorway. So where there's a will, there's a way. As a result, my friend bought a safe that weights 1200 ponds and he doesn't woryy about anyone trying to drag it around anymore.

My neighbor also just bought a safe - 3500 pounds and I spent an hour watching 3 professional safe movers (one guy had been moving safes for 25+ years) take it off the truck, bring it thru his garage, and put it in a room off the garage. An hour and that was for guys that knew what they were doing and were well prepared. Course, filling up a safe that BIG is quite a challange (I would imagine).

Just some stories from the road......

Scavenger

That's a very nice looking safe, functional too. I bought a Diplomat safe from a locksmith several years ago, one of the best investments I've ever made as far as piece of mind. Most people dont realize that these safes weigh 800 - 1000 pounds empty. It's nice to know that whatever you put in there is gonna be there when you get back.

saintguru

MY safe is one floor underground protected by a 3 ton door and night watchmen. It's called a bank, and if you have more than $10,000 in coins you would be wiser to consider that. People have had their hands chopped off for Timex watches. Just imagine how little the bad guys would think about cutting your throat because they couldn't MOVE your 3500 lb. safe!

Funny, "SAFE" is actually quite an oxmoron. You can "BANK" on that!

lava

<< <i>I got it from a local safe store -- it was on special for $369.00 and it weighs more than 1 person can lift. Even 2 would have a really hard time with it.
TPN >>



Is it too heavy for a hand truck?

TonedPeaceNut

<< <i>Is it too heavy for a hand truck? >>



Not really but the installer needed a hydraulic hand truck to move it upstairs.

As for the safety element -- a motivated thief can steal anything. But since I have alarm systems with a private armed security force, live in a private, gated community with their own security force and live way too close to my neighbors -- it would be hard for someone to carry the safe out of the house with out triggering the alarm or being noticed.

If you really want security -- have a safe company turn a closet into a vault. It's possible and provides the highest level of protection for home stored valuables.


TPN

Bikingnut

What's the brand name on it?

Deb048gold

Banks are not infallible! One down on a corner near to our house was broken into two weeks ago. Professional thieves were able to break-in, drill out the key holes on over 200 safety deposit boxes and clean out the contents. A real heist! (And they got away)!

The best advice which I took to heart is to get a good collectibles insurance policy, and then keep your coins locked up wherever you want!

saintguru

Deb. I'm not going to argue with you...but nobody is going to kill YOU at a bank they are robbing. I believe that the point is to first keep yourself and family safe, THEN to keep your coins safe. Anything this valuable kept in your house is an invitation for some maniac to show you how stupid it is to own a safe and THINK YOU are safe !!

BigGreek

TonedPeace,

I like.

I need.

How did you find a local safe store? Yellow pages?

Did they deliver?

Install?

Deb048gold

JB. I agree! I'm not going to try and use my artificial kung-fu and a loaded gattling gun to try and scare off armed intruders to keep my family and coins safe. Since my coins are covered on the policy, I'll simply show them where the goods are and go get a cup of coffee!

Deb048gold

By the way, I do keep my coins in a bank. But I still have collectibles insurance!

saintguru

Just for the sake of not creating illusions Deb, the situation is NOT alleviated by surrendering the goods. What if the burglars don't want you to be able to identify them? Everyday people are killed in their homes because of this reason AFTER they gave up the goods. Anyone who has kids has to be terrified that they could be used as hostages. Hell, the Clutter family was murdered IN COLD BLOOD in Kansas in 1954, and that was unheard of then. Nowadays there is so little respect for human life that they will take you, your kids and your valuables...then grab a few beers from the fridge and casually drive away.

I'm just saying this so people don't get a false sense of security. Yes, you can insure your coins...but you can't insure your family's lives against insanity. I hope my point is understood. I say all this because I KNOW someone this happened to.

RYK

Nowadays there is so little respect for human life that they will take you, your kids and your valuables...then grab a few beers from the fridge and casually drive away.

Beer, too? What gives? How can I protect my favorite beverage from these monsters?

saintguru

I leave a icy keg on the front step at night!!

Catch22

I knew a guy who traveled quite a bit and he told me that a person should have two stashes of cash...one for the potential thief and another with the real money. He would carry a wallet with a few bucks in it and a money belt. His logic was that most thieves would steal the wallet with a few bucks in it and leave it at that.

I would think that would be good advice when it comes to safes as well. One for the thief and one with your valuables in it.

TonedPeaceNut

<< <i>What's the brand name on it? >>



Sentry

As for purchasing this one -- just go to Google and entry Sentry Safes. There are many who carry it. I'm not sure about delivery when buying online though.

People -- stop being so paranoid. Safes are to keep out minor crooks and somewhat dishonest people. Maniacs are going to kill you anyway after they raped your wife and daughter and still steal whatever they want.

I know what I am talking about --- I have a BS in Criminal Justice and a BS in Psyche and worked at the Washington DC Public Defender's Office as an staff investigator on more than 500 violent felonies.

Most burgulars aren't killers. They would rather not have you be home when they B&E. Too messy and too many problems. They just want money and items that are easy to fence. Dragging 600lb safes around are not what they really want to be doing. Slows them down and makes it easier to get caught.

They might find the safe and later tell a friend who is a real SOB and he might try to get it and/or you, but you could also get hit by the bus on your way to work.


TPN

ttown

If it's not fire resistant I wouldn't ever put my valued collection in it. My gun safe is over 1000lbs and the factory warns you when you buy it you lose the keys and it takes 3 days for them to cut it open, from the back no less they told me the door is out of the question.
JMO

saintguru

Ok then..if you think I'm paranoid, which I'm not...it's a free country. Keep your coins in your OfficeMax safe and keep your fingers crossed. I wouldn't go to bed comfortable with those BS statistics or whatever they are. I'll let the bank guards shoot it out for me and sleep real well. Good luck!!

relayer

Well besides everyone who read your post, there are the two people that delivered your safe who know there is a safe in your house

I've never had my home burglarized or robbed, but I still think a safe only works once.

Once a burglar finds the safe in your house, a felon now knows there is a safe in the house. After that you have to answer the door with a gun in your hand because it may be a girl scout selling cookies, or the burglar coming back with some friends and a gun.

I don't keep much in my home safe - unless it's home for a visit, the good stuff is in the safe deposit box at the bank.

TonedPeaceNut

Saintguru -- I've already had a gun held to my head and a knife held to my throat during the time I was an investigator and I've survived 2 heart attacks. And I'm only 35. Not BS statistics, experience. I'm sure you sleep well at night, but its a scared sleep of what might happen to you.

I prefer a sound sleep knowing that death is nothing something to be feared. Come talk to me when you've faced your own mortality a 6 or so times.


TPN

relayer

<< <i>I prefer a sound sleep knowing that death is nothing something to be feared. >>



I think Sigmund would read much into that statement.

coinguy89

A great looking safe.

Deb048gold

We're starting to flog a dead horse again! We all had this discussion about two months ago about SAFES VS BANKS Pro's and Con's. What happens is that our original poster was excited about his new safe and our discussion has deteriorated to survival tactics for the 21st century for the "rich and famous"..

I would suggest if you have a substantial collection (JB says over $10,000 which sounds fine to me) put the coins in the BANK. GET A COLLECTIBLES INSURANCE POLICY!!!
But remember the safety deposit boxes are not insured by the bank, and as I mentioned two weeks ago we had a major safety deposit heist in my area. It's about as rare as it gets, but can happen, but remember the intruder isn't going to want to follow you down to the bank to get your coins either.

saintguru

Toned

Please...now you're sounding stupid. Do what you want. Your credentials ARE BS when the odds go against you, and for someone who has had so many life threatening experiences you are obviously ready for your fate. I wouldn't fell so lucky having 2 heart attacks by 35. As a matter of fact, it sounds like you have a problem dealing with your own mortality because you are so cavalier with your relatively reckless position. I just hope that you don't have kids that may be pawns of your indiscretion. Live on and do it your way.

Don't tell me how I sleep, though. You're not THAT insightful. EOM. EOD.

ms70

Very nice safe!! I would recommend checking into the interior materials such as the shelf carpeting, etc, for any potential hazards like PVC.
The shelves (probably wood) can always be replaced with stainless steel. Enjoy it!!

RevCoose

TPN I really like your new safe. But after reading StGurus posts,I think I might buy the safe,sell all my stuff,and live in the box it came in!

ER

I need to know its dimensions, weight,... oh yeah, and where you live.

magikbilly

<< <i>Very nice safe!! I would recommend checking into the interior materials such as the shelf carpeting, etc, for any potential hazards like PVC.
The shelves (probably wood) can always be replaced with stainless steel. Enjoy it!!

>>




Replace wood with stainless (anodized aluminum would be best)...my kind of thinking!

Best,
Billy

SilverDollarMan

btw bro, whats the fire rating? N!CE

guysmy

The level of security required depends on your needs. Saintguru collects gold coins so I can understand his position. I on the other hand, have a small, humble collection of US and World coins that are only protected by a plastic 2x2 container, a slab box and rolls.

Maconlock

If you would like to fire protect it longer than 30 to 60,go down to Lowes and buy plaster board and line the walls,that what that model has in it doors and walls,it good fire protection .

rember,if the back plate starts to move about,fix it ASSP,there a relocker pin that has the trigger on the back plate,if this plate moves too much it will setoff the relocker and you will end up with a lockout,then you have to pay a locksmiths $100 so he can drill the lock out.

saintguru

Gusmy...you hit the nail on the haed. I'm not saying what my set is worth but people have killed villages for less.

stman

Frattlaw, you should have known once you mention "safes" the thread would dissect every angle as it always does about every couple months.

I wonder if someone lives in a bubble if they're safe? Naw, someone always comes along and pops it.

ldhair

Everyone needs a safe but, high dollar stuff belongs in the bank.

ER

<< <i>Frattlaw, you should have known once you mention "safes" the thread would dissect every angle as it always does about every couple months.

I wonder if someone lives in a bubble if they're safe? Naw, someone always comes along and pops it. >>


Is it really you, Michael? Welcome back. Should 've known by your forum handle, TPN.

jtwax

Cool safe! Personally, I just thro my coins in these and stash 'em in the back of the fridge...

ER

<< <i>Cool safe! Personally, I just thro my coins in these and stash 'em in the back of the fridge... >>


How long does it take to tone them , JT?

TonedPeaceNut

<< <i>saintguru - Just where in the hell do you live that you feel so scared to live your life in a normal manner (don't really want to know).
>>



I was kinda thinking the same thing. Perhaps I should sell my expensive luxury car as well and drive a Gremlin -- cause someone might want to carjack me. Perhaps I should close my Paypal and Ebay account as well as my online banking because someone might hack my account or steal my identity. Forget about carrying cash. Will Walmart accept wampum? Life is too scary now that Saintguru has enlightened me. Perhaps RevCoose is right, the homeless are the real lucky ones -- they are theft proof and judgement proof as well.



<< <i>Frattlaw, you should have known once you mention "safes" the thread would dissect every angle as it always does about every couple months. >>



You must be confusing me with that other guy that collects toned Peace $ and does YN giveaways!!!!!


TPN

saintguru

IDHAIR/LDHAIR??? and tonedpeacenut

saintguru
Just where in the hell do you live that you feel so scared to live your life in a normal manner (don't really want to know).

Nice riff. Who the hell are you to even assume you know what I am or what I think? That's about the stupidest comment I have read and there is no shortage. I'm not scared, I'm smart. But look, YOU keep your coins at home and hope they are safe. I have a seven figure collection and NO IDIOT is going to persuade me that the safety of my home is where they belong. I have a safe, but it's for valuable documents and keepsakes...not $75K coins. Do you get that part?

By the way, I live in Winnetka Il,. which has the lowest crime rate in the entire Chicago area. But big bucks aren't for testing even those odds. This thread has been argued so many times and I just can't believe how naive so many people are. Tough guys, right? You don't need life insurance either...it's so stupid...you aren't going to die.

Next time you want to chat, try a little civility...your tone rubs me wrong.

dtkk49a

Someone breaking into your house and robbing you is one thing. Someone breaking into your house, waking you up or waiting for you to get home and forcing you to open the safe they found in your closet is another thing. This happens allot.

Banks get robbed allot less than homes do. I'll take those odds any day.

That is a nice safe. Now that you bought it, your next purchases should be a nice alarm system and a nice firearm.