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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    BKAH..Im not sure why people are still trying to change your mind, its obvious that Bonds is a role model
    in your life and it would take him to come out and say he was on drugs for you to believe it. If you want
    to call him great, despite all his imperfections (including a world series choke), then that is fine.

    Thanks
    JS


  • << <i>Since you are wondering BKAH ....

    OJ did it.

    Kobe buying the ring was a bad move. Kobe had a extra-marital affair - bad move, but it happens. Like many others, I saw the possibilty that this girl was p/o'd, nuts, or money hungry. It happens as well.

    Did you ever wonder that the charges were dropped because the prosecution had nothing but a case of "Hey, I'll call you tomorrow but doesn't"? That happens alot. >>

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    punk ever made....)
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  • << <i>BKAH..Im not sure why people are still trying to change your mind, its obvious that Bonds is a role model
    in your life and it would take him to come out and say he was on drugs for you to believe it. >>

    Winning a WS has nothing
    to do with it and you know it
    (ask Ted Williams about being a great
    player, on a team that does not win the big one)

    as for what it would take to make me
    ATTACK And HATE Barry Bonds the way
    you and other here do:
    There is only one thing I have ever asked for...
    something yet to be provided...
    it is very simple...

    Just give me Proof.

    Hell, I would even settle for real evidence,
    but all you got is rumor and hear say.

    You go right ahead and HATE the man.
    That is ok. It is your choice....
    but I choose to wait to cast my stone
    until he is actually proven guilty.

    Night night Joe
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    as for what it would take to make me
    ATTACK And HATE Barry Bonds the way
    you and other here do


    where is there HATE in these posts? I do not think anyone here hates Bonds.

    You are such a freak Jeff. You take everything to the absolute extreme.

    Why do you HATE Kobe? Because the rape charges were dropped? Because he has rings? Superstar? Is it because he is black?
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    what proof do you need? Bond's trainer said he gave Bonds roids...you think he just made that up? I think
    your eyes are closed here, you don't want to even imagine someone being better than Bonds. Its really
    to bad (for most of us), that we never saw just how dominating Williams was. Bonds is so much better than
    everyone today in the game that we just assume he would be the same no matter when he played.

    I have no problem putting Bonds in the top 3 hitters of all time and top 5 overall but he is tops in neither.
    1000 homers won't change my view and neither would 5 more MVP's. If he comes out and hits .400 or
    wins a triple crown then Ill be the first here to say I was wrong. There have been amazing hitters who
    hit for average and then amazing power hitters, but there has NEVER been a person to hit for both like
    Williams did.

    This topic will ALWAYS be a hit here, once again Im glad to be a part of it!

    JS
  • << You go right ahead and HATE the man.
    That is ok. It is your choice....
    but I choose to wait to cast my stone
    until he is actually proven guilty. >>

    But i guess it's different with Kobe huh ?

    Hypocrite


  • << <i>Why do you HATE Kobe? Because the rape charges were dropped? Because he has rings? Superstar? >>

    uh,
    never said I hated Kobe.
    I just said it was funny you thought he
    did not rape the girl.



    << <i> Is it because he is black? >>

    and as for you "attempt" to bring
    race into this, is just funny

    You do not have a clue what you are talking about.
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    BKAH, I was baiting you. You took it.

    never said I hated Kobe.

    but you hope he loses all his money? Why? How is that different than many wishing Bonds gets caught and banned?

    We never said we hated Bonds either. It was never a black or white issue either, as you said it was in so many posts.

    I just said it was funny you thought he
    did not rape the girl.


    How is that funny? Do YOU think he raped that girl? Were YOU there? (classic BKAH argument ... ie Do you know Barry Bonds)

    You make me laugh.

    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I do not think anyone here hates Bonds. >>



    No love from me though.



    << <i>BKAH..Im not sure why people are still trying to change your mind, its obvious that Bonds is a role model >>



    It would take something extreme for BKAH to change his mind. I originally wrote a lot worse but feared
    BKAH would cry foul so I deleted my original post. BKAH scares me....

    aconte


  • << <i>BKAH scares me.... >>

    aconte,
    Do not be afraid of me
    just because we disagree.

    This is America
    and these are just message boards.

    It is all just "playful banter"

    In the grand scheme of the world,
    none of this matters.

    And no one really cares what any of
    us think about any of these things

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  • << <i>BKAH, You make me laugh. >>

    Glad I could help!
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  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do not be afraid of me >>



    I'll try to be tougher. Thanks!



    << <i>In the grand scheme of the world,
    none of this matters.

    And no one really cares what any of
    us think about any of these things >>



    True.

    aconte
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ill take Ripken's personality over 800 homers ANY DAY OF THE YEAR! Those of you who think sports are just about the numbers are missing the point. >>



    Joe, you cease to amaze me. Read the above again, as you wrote it. If this is the case, and personality is such a big issue with you, why do you always come to these boards as a jackass and the village idiot, which is how you describe Bonds. Then, if this isn't bad enough, your sentence about 'numbers' is mindboggling! Everyday we hear about rings and .400 ba and triple-crown, etc, etc................

    I've come to the conclusion that although you hate Bonds, you're very much like him in your own little world (Obviously from a personality standpoint and not an atheletic one.)

    Think about it Joe next time you type a response to a post.......'I guess I am like Barry, and didn't even know it!'

    BOTR
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VILLAGE IDIOT....That is one I will need to use. image
  • I have to agree with Joe Stalin and his point about
    Cal Ripken.

    I have to disagree with the comments about it doesn't
    matter what kind of personality they have.

    Babe Ruth is THE KING of baseball (although he had a drinking
    and woman problem) because he was the kindest person to
    kids and fans. He always went out of his way for charity reasons
    and to please the fans.

    If you go to the ballpark, you love a guy who not only plays well,
    but respects the game, and respects the fans.

    Joe Stalin is right that the fans make them millionaires, and they
    need to respect the game and the fans that made them heros.

    Once you've lost respect for the game by cheating (AROD),
    or steriods (God knows how many do it), then you should go
    down in history as a cheater.

    The Babe and Cal Ripken aren't perfect like anybody else,
    but there were never two players who exemplified respecting
    the game better then these two. Well, maybe Gehrig, and some others.



  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry but Fans do NOT come into the picture when it comes to contracts.

    You Hit you get paid. You dont hit you dont get paid.

    It is that simple.
  • I wonder how many MVP awards Ruth would have if you were allowed to win more than once back then.

    Also the Cy Young award did not exist when he was pitching.
  • I wonder how many MVP awards Ruth would have if you were allowed to win more than once back then.

    Also the Cy Young award did not exist when he was pitching.
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Perkdog - off topic response to your off topic comment. Fans have a great influence on some salaries. Teams have to put asses in the seats, in addition to corporate sponsorships, TV, et al. That's why a guy like Palmiero gets bucks in Balto now, and Ripken got big bucks before him for his last five years, despite statistics.
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
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