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I need help on this 1877 50c pattern - should I buy it??

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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  • NewmismatistNewmismatist Posts: 1,802 ✭✭
    Lakes

    Why wouldn't you buy that coin? image
    Collecting eye-appealing Proof and MS Indian Head Cents, 1858 Flying Eagle and IHC patterns and beautiful toned coins.

    “It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain
    Newmismatist
  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    Definately pass. Go ahead and give the dealer my contact information, I'll spare him the humility and take it off his hands for whatever you were going to pay image
    Mr. Thigpen

    Self Indulgence | Holey Coins | Flickr Photostream
  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭


    << <i>Looks AT - Pass. >>




    You'd have to have some nads to AT a pattern.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah,

    And make sure you get into a bidding war with Mark!!!

    Fight, fight, fight!!!!!! image

    PM me when you get a chance on the details....

    siliconvalleycoins.com

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am a big fan of the reverse but not the (Morgan) obverse. Since the obverse contributes 70% to the overall score, I personally would pass.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What if it were reverse holdered??imageimage
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What if it were reverse holdered??

    Then, 70% says, "Yes."
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • RKKayRKKay Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭
    Buy it!! I saw the words "Done Deal" up there.image

    Edited to add: Lakes need not worry about Mark. He already has one.
    Rick Kay
    Specializing in 1854 and 1855 large FE patterns

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ex: Garrett? If so, it's much darker than the image. Better lay off it.




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    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Grab it, you'd be nuts to pass. Love that reverse!
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    See coin #1 at this link..

    Only one mystery left: Who can tell us where the coin was between 1877 and 1883?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the collection of James E. Blaine

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • bballboybballboy Posts: 117
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the collection of James E. Blaine

    Well done.

    Funny. This coin is one of the best of only six known, it's the first appearance of the Morgan Dollar obverse design, and it has a provenance that goes back to something earlier than 1883. How is it even possible that something this cool can be privately owned, much less reasonably affordable?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    It's really an ugly design. Why not have it sent here and I'll watch it for a while and spare you the grief.

    Tomimage

    Coin's for sale/trade.


    Tom Pilitowski
    US Rare Coin Investments
    800-624-1870

  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! You sure made me look with the title of this thread.image I say go for it. Thats my favorite pattern design. I love the "defiant eagle" reverse.image
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Andy/Coinkat - what can you tell us about Blaine??

    Interesting that it would have 4 owners in it's first 100 yrs, then appear for sale 4 times since 1998.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • Iampoorman2Iampoorman2 Posts: 207 ✭
    Is that NGC 65?
    A 1943 copper Lincoln will still only buy a gumball out of the machine, but you can purchase the machine and the store with that same cent.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, NGC P65. Stole the pictures from ANR. Check out their website for the writeup (9/03).

    Have decided to buy it from Rick Kay - thanks for the poll advice. imageimage
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love it, it is a wonderful coin/pattern.

    It is interesting that the lower arrowhead on the reverse is on a bolt of lightning (or so it appears from the zig-zag shaft of the arrow).

    I wonder what made someone consider doing that? I'd hate to try to shoot an arrow that looked that way!
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    It is interesting that the lower arrowhead on the reverse is on a bolt of lightning (or so it appears from the zig-zag shaft of the arrow).

    Never noticed that before -- that is a strange quirk of the design.

    Glad to hear you're buying it Lakes image
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is an intresting arrow. Both the base (the eagle is standing on) and the arrows seem to anticipate designs of the 1920-30's. I suspect it was "artistic license" to fill the space left below the other 2 arrows.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Funny. This coin is one of the best of only six known, it's the first appearance of the Morgan Dollar obverse design, and it has a provenance that goes back to something earlier than 1883. How is it even possible that something this cool can be privately owned, much less reasonably affordable?

    Andy:

    Since your in a position to know, all I can say is, "Well put".imageimage
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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