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Cheerios Dollar
MWallace
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Does anyone have a Sacagawea Cheerios Dollar that's in a slab? I'd like to see a good photo of the reverse.
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I ate the Cheerios, but still have the cent
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Old thread alert.
Bump.
If you mean TPG slab, here's one:
Can’t really make out the enhanced TF in the SB pic
I agree. I'm not exactly sure why a slab photo was requested, which is why I linked both PCGS and SB sites. Perhaps it's just to see a certified specimen? Here's a close up from SB's site:
Note the date of his request.
TD
I was noting the date of your bump
I have a couple of the cents.... Never did get a Sac from all the Cheerios I bought.... I am not a cereal fan... But for a snack in the evening or a party, if you toast them in a pan with butter and add salt, Cheerios are a great snack. Cheers, RickO
Yeah, if you toast pretty much anything in a pan with butter and salt, it's a great snack... 😉
Just butter the salt and you don’t need the Cheerios
The "top numismatist" I mentioned in this post was Tom DeLorey. Eventually it was discovered that Pat Braddick unknowingly had a Sacagawea Dollar with a different reverse in a small ANACS holder. The holder was simply labeled "Cheerios" since it had come out of the Cheerios packaging. Photos of the reverse were sent to Tom and he verified it was the variety that he'd been looking for since 1999. After Tom verified the variety, Pat sent the coin to NGC and had it slabbed as the "Discovery Specimen".
Here are two links with the whole story:
smalldollars.com/dollar/page20c.html
smalldollars.com/dollar/delorey.html
I had an excellent discussion with Mr. Lange (of NGC) at the Long Beach coin show after PCGS showed no interest (not their fault- they were super busy and didn't have time to talk about this potential discovery coin).
It was there he filled out the paperwork and had the coin submitted. It did take NGC several months as they were in contact with the U.S. Mint and were running into roadblocks as the Mint was denying and changing to the reverse even though there was substantial evidence otherwise. the Mint eventually relented.
I thank NGC for its perseverance.
The coin was eventually returned to me along with a lovely photo arrangement and write-up about how it got to where it was.
I was tempted to "buy up" all the Cheerios dollars out there as they were routinely selling for $75. - $100. yet did not do so as I thought it was a little too "inside baseball" as far as ethnically speaking.
peacockcoins
I’m glad you had a piece that confirmed my published reports from 2000 that the Mint had used a different reverse design at least twice in 1999. What if your coin had been one of the non-pattern dollars now known to sometimes appear in the Cheerios two-coin holders? Nobody would ever have opened up a Cheerio two-coin pack again!
You should have.
I have a theory on that...
I believe- based on what I have learned from two other collectors- non-Cheerios Sacs were sent to PCI for reholdering (when indeed they had been busted out of one of the legit PCI Cheerios slabs). These coins were, in turn, labeled as "Cheerios" even though they had never originated from the cereal boxes. These coins were then touted as being from the cereal boxes yet were not. It goes a bit deeper than that, and I suppose there may be equal evidence there were/are "Cheerios" dollars without the reverse diagnosis; I remain quietly convinced those non-Cheerios reverse coins never were, to begin with.
On a more positive note: It was on a whim I decided to have ANACS grade my sealed Cheerios coins. I had no clue there was any difference other than the label on the insert. I just thought it would be fun to own one with ANACS, designating it as such.
It wasn't until I had those email/PM exchanges that I dug out the ANACS coin and looked at what I was asked to look for. I was borderline shocked when it was what the other collector believed it to be!
peacockcoins
I have seen in hand two of the two packs where the dollar did not have the die marker. On both the dollar was struck from a die that had obviously struck many tens of thousands of coins previously. I could find no indication that the packaging was not original.