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1963 P70 1c turns in holder due to improper storage....

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
Swiatek is quoted in Coin World as saying the 40K 1963 P70 1c is now worth about $4 because of "improper storage". Interesting perspective and at odds with what D. Hall wrote in Jan.

"The 1963 PR 70 Lincoln cent in the Heritage auction was purchased by PCGS. We purchased the coin to take it off the market since it had "turned" in the holder and was no longer PR70. The transaction was handled in such a way the nobody (other than PCGS) will lose any money on the deal.

Not sure what we'll do with the coin. Maybe we'll put it in the Long Beach World Series of Grading test...though I don't think a spotted PR64 Lincoln proof is a good coin for the test.

Maybe we'll hang it on the grading room or sealing room wall to remind the staff to be careful about handling copper. This is not the first big hit we've taken on a copper coin. In 1989 we bought back a PR69 Indian cent for $50,000 that had "grown" an enormous spot covering the entire face. We put it in a holder labeled "The $50,000 spot" and hung it on the grading room wall for awhile.

David Hall"

Anyone know what Swiatek bases his current comments on??
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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  • WTF!!!!!!image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Tim,

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not seeing where his assertion that it turned due to improper storage is at odds with anything David Hall said.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Maybe the implication form DH's comments is that PCGS did something (mishandled, sneezed on, etc) the coin that led to it's turning.

    Is the article stating that the coin's change was due to only improperly storage (after encapsulation)? If so, wouldn't this open up a huge liability for PCGS? Imagine all these MS or PF 70 coins which they would have to buy back if the current owners store them in poor conditions (wet basement, hot attic, etc.)
    Dave - Durham, NC
  • Or maybe a wood box....... image
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chances are nobody knows why the coin turned. But it does make you wonder how the other ten million coins are being stored... image
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • The coin was taken off the market months before the PCGS boxes were released magicbilly.

    Cameron Kiefer


  • << <i>The coin was taken off the market months before the PCGS boxes were released magicbilly.

    Cameron Kiefer >>



    Hi Cameron,

    'twas a general statement, meant to provoke thought regarding storage of slabbed coins. I have no idea how this particular coin was stored.

    Best,
    Billy
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ:

    After reading Dave's comments, I guess your right. The comment about reminding PCGS folks to be careful while handling coins and the turning in holder comments aren't mutually exclusive.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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