Crazy -1999 Silver Proof box on ebay

clackamas

Just the box for $48???

Scavenger

And it's got 11 bids? I dont get it - shysters?

291fifth

Original packaging brings good money if the item is scarce.

XpipedreamR

That's the SGS guy. I wonder if the coins went into SGS "slabs?"

Yousri

Why someone wants to buy a box without the coins other than fraud.

oreville

This seller is legit. I even got a free sample SGS slab just for the asking.

He has sold lots of coin supplies at reasonable prices in the past and I have bought some of them as well.

I am sure even he was shocked at the price the empty 1999 silver proof box attained.

Glad I bought my 1999 silver proof sets from the US Mint. I never expected the current prices either!

291fifth

<< <i>Why someone wants to buy a box without the coins other than fraud. >>



There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling original packaging. I have done so myself (this is not my lot). Don't be so quick to suggest fraud.

ziggy29

<< <i>There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling original packaging. I have done so myself (this is not my lot). Don't be so quick to suggest fraud. >>

I can understand honest, legitimate reasons why someone would *sell* this item and deliver it as described. I just can't think of many honest, legitimate reasons to pay $50 for it.

BigE

They put coins back in the sets and re-sell them, maybe clad ones, I don't know for sure-----------BigE

oreville

ziggy: Three possible reasons:

(1) Might be cheaper to buy the 1999 proof coins without the box plus paying $50 for the box than buying the original full assembly.

(2) The buyer had no choice. Might have had a damaged box or needed a box for his 1999 proof set in which he did not have one or can't find it. If he paid the US Mint original price for the set and then needs a box what is another $50 when the current price is so much higher?

(3) Fear of even higher prices later on.

Personally, I think it is nuts. But we are nuts, arent we?

Yousri

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<< <i>There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling original packaging. I have done so myself (this is not my lot). Don't be so quick to suggest fraud. >>

I can understand honest, legitimate reasons why someone would *sell* this item and deliver it as described. I just can't think of many honest, legitimate reasons to pay $50 for it. >>



I did not mean on the seller part, He indicates that there are no coins.
But what really concerned me is the buyer. What use he will have for empty box.

Sorry if I offended anybody.

Conder101

Simply put, it is much easier to sell, and you will get a better price for your 1999 silver set if you have the box and COA that go with it. And yes there is a good chance that the difference in selling price between a no box set and a with box set is more than $50. Yes, fraud is a possibility, but it can also be legitimite.

Boom

I haven't seen the box yet but if it's pristine I'll have to notify a recent customer who seemed to be more concerned with the condition of the box than the contents.

oreville

boom: ROFL!

Boom

Hey "O", I'm dead serious. Check my recent feedback. This nincompoop was contemplating negging me because the box wasn't perfect. I still have his email. What an idiot!...........Outcome, a positive with a swipe and a "pleasantry" from me. Blocked bidder!

Theop

Do you think you could tell the difference, just by looking, between the clad and silver coins?

I doubt the casual collector would.

The mint packaging is not sealed, so imagine this scenario...

$48 1999 Silver Proof set packaging + $60 1999 Clad Proof Set coins = $250 1999 "Silver" Proof Set

This would make me nervous if I were looking to buy 1999 silver sets on ebay.

susanlynn9

Speaking as someone who opened my 1983 Proof Set and discovered a badly cracked casing, I could think of a legitimate reason to buy that slab. As it was, I ended up taking the coins out and using them as bonus coins for my buyers. If I had seen an auction like this one for the 1999 (at a reasonable price) I would have purchased it and put the coins into the new slab. That certainly isn't a fraudulent reason to purchase.

BigE

Yes Susan, but I bet if you put a 2000 silver proof set box up no one would buy it-------------------BigE

oreville

Boom:

CardsFan

I sell empty boxes on e-bay too, so recently I asked one the winners what they use the boxes for and this was his response:
"I use the one`s I think that might have to be replaced, if my Boxes has a
scratch, or tear on the Box. Otherwise, a friend of mine, is a Coin Dealer, and
I sell them to him, as he buys, and sells everything, sometimes he buys Proof
Sets, without the Boxes, and the Coa."

spy88

Would it be financially feasible to purchase the silver proof coins separately, putting them back in the case, sell on eBay and still make money?

Just a thought---

susanlynn9

It is definitely financially feasible, but questionably ethical. There are many people who use acetone to clean fingerprints or other debris from their proof coins. Oftentimes, this only works temporarily and the fingerprints or whatever begin to show again. How could you be sure that any individual proof coins that you purchased to go into this packaging would not end up with this problem? You could be selling a fraud set with the best intentions. I wouldn't take the chance.

SemperFI

I have a ton of boxes that I really do not want to just throw away. Maybe someone may need them becuase thiers is all beat up or just missing and would like the full product. But yes, $50 for one is a little high. But, he may not care as the person may want to sell the set as a whole deal.

golddustin

I was just going to mention what has happened to me in the past, but susanlynne beat me to it - the mint occasionally sends boxes that are bent, crushed, marked, or have cracked lens. I too have had buyers send sets back not because of problems with the coins, but because he was a "serious" collector, and the box was not "presentable"...it had been crushed just a bit on the corner during shipment from the mint. Rather than argue, it's easier to have some extra boxes (and preferably lenses, too) sitting around for the times you get those damaged sets from the mint. But I won't pay $50 for one!

Conder101

<< <i>$48 1999 Silver Proof set packaging + $60 1999 Clad Proof Set coins = $250 1999 "Silver" Proof Set >>


That does happen.

GoYankees

<< <i>Just the box for $48??? >>



Sold at $68.75 (19 bids).

That SGS guy can sell sand to a Bedouin.

Coinhusker1

I've got a nice bridge to sell to desporado57!!!