1942/1-D MERCURY DIME ??

bigtonydallas

Does someone have a good pic or good description on the diagnostics for this variety? Thanks.

kranky

Isn't there a photo in the Red Book?

Trooper

a little help

I'ts not a Denver mint though in the pic

kranky

Just a heads-up, the Denver overdate isn't identical (nor quite as obvious) as the Philly one.

JadeRareCoin

Make sure that the "4" in the date is also repunched and always check the "D" mintmark, which MUST be repunched (D/D). I am not sure off hand which direction the mintmark is repunched, but is obvious.

Lots of fakes out there. If you have an image of one that you are trying to authenticate, please post it and we will try to help you.

Dennis

Trooper

here....


Her'e another

JadeRareCoin

Trooper, of the coins that you linked, I am pretty sure that the 42/1-P in in F in a counterfeit, however the 42/1-P in VF/EF is genuine. Of course the images are not very good, but the 4 and the 2 on the Fine example are not correct.

BillJones

The Denver mint version of the 1942/1 overdate is scarcer than the Philly coin, but it's not as obvious. For that reason it brings a simlar price.

bigtonydallas

I know what the Philly version looks like. The Denver version is harder to attribute. I believe the mintmark being repunched would not be a good diag as the reverse die could have been changed.

Trooper

Jade,
I just did a search on the internet for "1942/1 mercury" and those are the ones that popped up. I didn't even look at the second 42/1 p that came up on the second site, but I would definately trust your opinion on a raw example. I would never buy this type of coin unless it was slabbed from a reputable service.

Tom.

bigtonydallas

Anyone else?

KollectorKing

42/41-D from JJ Teaparty: http://www.jjteaparty.com/APIC/56252.jpg

bigtonydallas

I still can't see it!

KollectorKing

Try this one: http://www.jjteaparty.com/APIC/55548.jpg

Numismanic

Hope this one helps.

Barry

Here's mine (P, not D, and PCGS VF25):

mr1931S

Use magnification. This variety is impossible to identify with the naked eye:
1. The "4" is distinctly doubled.
2. The "2" over "1" on the Denver overdate is not as distinct as the Philly (which can clearly be seen with the naked eye) but the ends of the "1" can be clearly seen under magnification. The middle of the "1" will be seen as faint under magnification.
3. Slight doubling can be seen in some of the letters of "IN GOD WE TRUST."
4. The D/D mintmark, that I think always comes with the overdate, is a true RPM, left and slightly clockwise.

mr1931S

The overdate is actually 1942/1941. Minor doubling is seen in the "19" on the genuine Denver mint overdate. It seems that a counterfeiter would have his work cut out for him to successfully fake all the doubling on this variety.

fcloud

Here are some photos of my 42/1 D. These coins are double dies. The dies were swiched in the hubbing process. There is doubling on the dates other than just the 2 over 1.

PTVETTER

the fcloud post is the best example of a1941/41 - D

wingedliberty

My kind of thread.

xbob

I also have a dime exactly like this one (fcloud's). Any idea on value?

fcloud

xbob,

If you have a 1942/41-D in vf35 like mine, the retail value is in the $650 to $800 range.

bigtonydallas

Still not very clear. Does someone have a picture from the old cherrypickers guide?

BillJones

Here's a sharper picture. As you can see, this variety is no where near as sharp as the Philadelphia overdate.

xbob

I will try to get a good scan online this evening. From your scans, fcloud, it looks just like yours to me. It doesn't look the the one in cherrypickers so I thought it was perhaps strike doubling or something. I'm still green identifying these things. I hope it is valuable since it only cost me a few bucks on ebay. It was listed as a DDO and I thought I'd take a chance and use buy it now when it had just been listed.

-xbob

bigtonydallas

Bill Jones Thanks. That is exactly what I need!!!!!!!!!!

xbob

OK, here's the best I could do with my scanner.
Whole coin scan and zoom. The most prominent doubling is where the yellow arrows are but there's visible (10x) doubling at each arrow.
It's about a VG overall, any opinions on the variety? I think it's just like fclouds just in worse condition.
-xbob

xbob

Let me try again to get the pictures to show in my message. Pardon the double post. I am still learning the ropes to this board.


There it is.
-xbob