Have you ever noticed ..... about the Registry?
JrGMan2004
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Have you ever noticed, that the sets that get the awards and the Hall Of Fame status, are almost exclusively the sets of rich collectors? Except for the few occasions, like the Alaskan Bingle Set that the one forum member had sent in and is the Finest in the Registry set. And I'm talking more the US Coin Registrys. Except for maybe a couple niche sets, almost all of the leaders are collectors with a lot of money to spend on their coins. Look at the Joshua II Mercury Set... how much money has he spent on those coins? And it's not even his first time through the set... Look at just about any Registry set, and the people that have the #1 sets and the HoF sets tend to be rich collectors... About the only chance that a collector on a shoestring, like myself, could ever hope to win a Registry Award, is to get a bunch of really lucky submissions, for example getting a dozen or so 70s on Modern coins, or getting lucky on 60s Proof and SMS sets... but even Russ, the king of this, is only #3 in the Silver Short Set... anyways... thoughts? Concerns? Suggestions? Rants of your Own? Please share 
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Cameron Kiefer
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-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
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Did you ever notice rich people live in nice expensive houses and drive nice expensive cars?
There may be a pattern here
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New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
This isn't elementary school where every kid wins an award. Its real life.
Cameron Kiefer
Do you know how to spot a rich guy?
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Are you becoming a cynic? If you answer "I just see the world as it is" you've answered the question.
I remember as a kid when slot cars was all the rage. Then competition kicked in.
You no longer could compete with your $50 dollar slot car, you had to have the ultimate $1,000 dollar slot car.
I remember go kart racing. I used to have a 5 hp Briggs powered cart and had a lot of fun racing. Then suddenly
everyone started coming out with $25,000 go carts and blowing the doors off of all of us poor guys.
Drag racing, now it is a multi-million dollar car to be competitive.
I remember windsurfing, that was lots of fun, then guys started coming out with custom hand made boards, custom special made sails, custom carbon graphite sail shafts, custom carbon graphite fins, ad nauseum. Next thing you know you these guys
are sailing circles around your old obsolete stuff. Now that parasailing-windsurfing thing that kills people is all the rage, only $6,000 to get started.
How about bicycling? Now you need a $10,000 or more expensive bicycle and a special $5,000 streamlined outfit to race.
<< <i>Do you know how to spot a rich guy?
"Special Mention" awards. These could be for noteworthy achievements
beyond just the #1 spots, such as:
* Sets that are "100% homemade", with every coin being submitted raw by the owner.
* Outstanding colorful sets, that may not have the highest numerical grade.
* Sets with the best presentation (photos, descriptions, etc).
These types of awards could inspire collectors of all means to participate and excel
in the registry system.
Ken
<< <i> Have you ever noticed, that the sets that get the awards and the Hall Of Fame status, are almost exclusively the sets of rich collectors? >>
Maybe that's because they have more money to spend them on.
(as in, "everything's nice, butterface" )
Or maybe she IS fine, and she just happens to be a"chubby chaser"?
oh, ok, I'm reaching.. he's probably Loaded!
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Not every award winning set is owned by a rich dude. Take Manofcoins (Craig) in Washington quarters, for example. He's built that set one coin at a time and made many of them himself. One can claw their way to the top by working very hard at it and being patient.
I'd certainly love to be rich but, even if I were, I'd still hunt and make rather than buy. It's more fun to do it that way.
I'd also note that many of those rich dudes didn't start life rich, but worked very hard to build their wealth and are now deservedly enjoying the fruits of that labor.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Did you know that someone owns the domain www.hewhodieswiththemostcoinswins.com ? >>
What is "hew hodies with them ost coin swins?" This some sort of secret code?
Life isn't about awards. It's about deriving internal satisfaction from doing your best.
Jr, think it will be tough getting a registry award? Awwww, dry your eyes. Take a picture of one, and make your own. Probably cost you about 50 bucks.
Russ: That was true, and nice. I'll keep sending checks...
<< <i>Wow, JRGMAN2004, thank you for enlightening me. I had no idea!!!! I was wondering why the winners had more valuable coins!!!
Jr, want a registry award. Awwww, dry your eyes. Take a picture of one, and make your own. Probably cost you about 50 bucks.
Russ: That was true, and nice. I'll keep sending checks... >>
Oh shut up!! It's people like you, that have to attack someone to make themselves feel better about their pathetic lives, that often times make me want to leave this board. I'm not looking for sympathy here, and have in fact sold my registry set, and will soon be closing it. I think that the idea about Honorable Mention awards is a great idea... there are tons of sets out there that people have put tons of time and effort into, but don't get any recognition for their sets, because Joe MoneyBags came along, and decided he wanted to collect this series and bought every top pop that has come to market...
I applaude Manofcoins for his accomplishment... he is definately in the minority...
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Take great pride in THAT. To me that's much more important than any Registry award. Calm down dude, go take a walk....
and don't throw out all I have spoken of by possibly having a bad day.
Chris
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
WS
If money rules, I do not think it is "game over" for the poor guy. For a hungry guy with knowledge, deals will be found, and the poor guy will not be forever poor.
I remember years ago when I sold my baseball cards. I was walking out of a show and I thought I might miss cards, so I opted to buy something to keep my hand in it. I bought the thing no one wanted -- basketball cards. I bought 2 boxes at $8 each. I put them on the shelf and forgot about them. Years later a baseball guy recognized me and asked if I still had cards. We got to talking and he said my basketball cards might be worth something. Next show I found out that dealers were paying $750 a box. I think 3 years had passed -- $8 to $750. Chalk one up for the poor guy.
Antique shop in the middle of nowhere in the midwest. I saw some old baseball programs. The owner was asking $5, but she offered them to me for $3. They were old, they were world series programs in good shape, and they were all autographed -- Dimaggio, Berra, Ford, Feller, Lemon, etc. Another score for the poor guy.
I used to live in the ghetto. My registry set is now #4 all time. Don't lose hope; you live in a country where nothing is out of reach.
I got 17 awards this year and let me tell ya ....I aint rich.......not even close!
Mike
idocoins
U.S. Nickels Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
U.S. Dimes Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
Thats not what i did,just worked out that way,number 2 and didnt hafta write a bunch of big checks.
Figure out which set it is and how much it cost !
Now that's the true long term collector. And whether we like it or not, the big featured coins are the big $$, low pop coins, and the bus driver isn't going to buy ithemt. Yeah, it is a rich man's game in the upper end. So are yachts and fine-art. But this should not be a class-struggle. We all collect different things, and it's the degree of enthusiasm and commitment to building the best we can that makes a set "RICH". For some it's MS64 Early gold, and for others it's statehood quarters, but if they both derive a great sense of satisfaction than they are both wealthy collectors.
I was 12 years old in 1964 and I had my blue book of circulated Roosies with me as I harangued all the neighborhood banks for rolls of dimes...I was missing one...every one I had found, not bought. Then , as an interesting coincidence to a previous post, I was racing my slot cars, had just bought a little jar of tiger's milk oil, or whatever it was and I looked at my change and THERE IT WAS...a 1949-S!!! The FINAL COIN.
noone onearth couldn't tell me I wasn't rich for the 10 days. I was walking on air!
So are we rich and just don't realize it? We build the best WE can, and others do the same. Peace is within ourselves, not doled out by others. That's rich.
My next set that I am getting ready to start collecting is seated coinage, and there's no way I will ever be able to reach #1 even if I am lucky enough to complete the set, but I will enjoy putting it together in the highest grades I can find and afford.
As for awards for having the finest set coins, or awards for anything else for that matter, it is something one can be proud of but it won't make that person a better man or woman, it is just a symbol of something accomplished and nothing more.
<< <i>Do you know how to spot a rich guy?
Worked too hard for my $$ to waste it on stupid shiat.
(1) Saintguru stated:
<<<<<<<<<<I think of RICH as someone who is worth 10 million or more...I am certain that many of the top sets are NOT in that ownership, although some are. There are the sets, althogh rare these days thet young guys started in their 20's and have been at for 30 years. They have wold class sets for a number of reasons..they bought pre-slabbed, when noboday wanted them, They probably had more pick of the litter...and they accumulated as time went on. By the time they got down to the big coins they were of enough means to buy them, but that still doesn't mean they were "rich".
Now that's the true long term collector. And whether we like it or not, the big featured coins are the big $$, low pop coins, and the bus driver isn't going to buy ithemt. Yeah, it is a rich man's game in the upper end. So are yachts and fine-art. But this should not be a class-struggle. We all collect different things, and it's the degree of enthusiasm and commitment to building the best we can that makes a set "RICH". For some it's MS64 Early gold, and for others it's statehood quarters, but if they both derive a great sense of satisfaction than they are both wealthy collectors.
I was 12 years old in 1964 and I had my blue book of circulated Roosies with me as I harangued all the neighborhood banks for rolls of dimes...I was missing one...every one I had found, not bought. Then , as an interesting coincidence to a previous post, I was racing my slot cars, had just bought a little jar of tiger's milk oil, or whatever it was and I looked at my change and THERE IT WAS...a 1949-S!!! The FINAL COIN.
no one onearth couldn't tell me I wasn't rich for the 10 days. I was walking on air!
So are we rich and just don't realize it? We build the best WE can, and others do the same. Peace is within ourselves, not doled out by others. That's rich. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(2) Lakesammman said: <<<<<<<<<Well, I have the #1 IHC variety position but can't even afford the dingy on Allen's yacht. Collect at a level you can afford and have fun doing it. Most of the fun is in the relationships built and in teaching others about the hobby. The rich guys come and go because they don't get any pleasure long term - they've missed the point. >>>>>>>>>>>>