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I just received a call from a collector in response to one of our recent Coin World advertisements. He asked about several coins, and each time he would ask about the color. When I told him that the coin was light gray or dark or gun metal gray, he would say, "nope, I am looking for white coins". Every coin that he inquired about was dated between 1807 and 1838. What color should a silver coin be after 150 or more years? Certainly not blast white. One of the coins that he inquired about was actually real close to white. I told him that it was about 1.5 on a scale of 1 to 5 for toning. He said, "no, it has to be solid white". These are all circulated coins, too. I am not slamming the collector here. I just got nauseated thinking about what these coins would look like if someone stripped off their natural grey patina. Bleeeech.

Which reminds me of something that happened to me recently. I sold an 1807 capped bust half to a vest pocket dealer at the St. Louis show a couple of weeks ago. It was in an ANACS EF-40 holder and, in my opinion, was solid for the grade. The coin had ample luster in the protected areas and had a nice, original golden tone to it. Very pretty. The next day, the same dealer asked if I wanted to look through his newps, so I said "sure". About half way through, I see a blast white 1807 half in his box that was marked "Ch. AU". He cracked the damn coin and then dipped the he!! out of it. That really pissed me off! image
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I agree. Really old coins should not be white.
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  • As for that particular vest pocket dealer? I will never sell him another coin.
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  • << <i>It was in an ANACS EF-40 holder and, in my opinion, was solid for the grade. The coin had ample luster in the protected areas and had a nice, original golden tone to it. Very pretty. The next day, the same dealer asked if I wanted to look through his newps, so I said "sure". About half way through, I see a blast white 1807 half in his box that was marked "Ch. AU". >>



    Dennis - he obviously knows how to "upgrade" a coin image
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  • << <i>I agree. Really old coins should not be white. >>

    image And as for that Vest Pocket Dealer....... image x100 image x1,000
    -George
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    that vest-pocket dealer was no "dealer" at all, he was a blood sucking, parasite "dealer wannabe". it makes me sick to my stomach to think of these whack jobs that constantly think they can "improve" coins, like they just can't keep their sticky, gooey little fingers off of normal looking coins, they just gotta make em look "Better". makes me sick!

    betch he had some nutty markup on it too, didn't he. son of a !@#$

    name this cow-patty dung heap!!!

    K S
  • I'm a big fan of Blast white coins. Personal preference I guess but when it comes to really old coins they simply won't be blast white. Exceptions have to made. The coin being graded properly and original should be most important when dealing with older coins.

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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Dennis,
    I've come to the conclusion that much of the collecting public has no clue. One example is the many full-page Coin World advertisers that sell cleaned junk, yet they've been successful doing so for many years. Another example is some of the scumbag Ebay dealers that sell the garbage we all poke fun at here, yet most of them have glowing feedback reports.

    Now that your advertising is reaching a much larger audience, I believe you'll find yourself fielding more calls from collectors like this.

  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    a blast white coin is 1 thing. but a blast white 1834 half dollar in vf-30 is ridiculous!!!

    K S
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only 19th Century coins you typically see blast white are late dated Seated coinage (dimes, quarters and halves) which did not circulate, in addition to a number of Morgan $.

    Any earlier dated silver coin which is blast white has been dipped, or usually worse. Most Unc. Seated $s look really nasty because of this. This guy doesn't know his coins and is at best, uninformed. If you really want to play with the guy's mind, tell him to look for Bust $s that are blast white!

    Now the other guy was simply um cara de pau asqueroso. Practically speaking, I will not buy any type coin which is not slabbed by one of the majors, simply as an insuarnce policy.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We should all take our original surface, lightly to medium circulated, nice early type coins, and put them away..

    they will only get rarer and more valuable as time goes on and other, similar nice coins are "changed"

    Oh, that's right, some of us are already "putting them away" for later image

    Glad you won't be doing any more business with that particular "dealer," Jade

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  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    Here, sell him this one!

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only early blast white type coin I can ever recall seeing that could have been untouched was the monster gem 1838 ND quarter in MS68. I last saw it in 1989 and I thought it was essentially 100% white. It was a flawless coin too, almost impossible to understand how it stayed that way. It looked like an 1889 seated quarter in MS68! Outside of that coin I have to go to the first hoard coins of 1857-1858 to see undipped, near white, gem seated coins.

    A new generation of collectors knows only "white" coins. I'm not surprised it is all they ask for. They've been brainwashed well by the TPG's and the PCGS registry.

    roadrunner
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dorkkarl
    Said it best,in my opinion.
    Al
  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    I'm just starting to put together a toned half dime set. It is amazing how many blast white half dimes there are. Yawn. Give me some character!
  • Hey tmot... seated libs or busties? Or both? I challenge you to complete a set of VF30 Bust Half-Dimes, in original grey, unmessed with problem-free condition... and do it on a budget of $575... that's 9 coins... and I'll tell you... TOUGH AS HELL!!!!
    -George
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