It may be controversial but it's still an interesting coin to view
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-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
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al h.
Looks like textile toning, but radioactive-ish.
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I always get that feeling and doubt as to why it wasn't already slabbed in the first place.
I always get that feeling and doubt as to why it wasn't already slabbed in the first place.
just for the record, every coin was raw at some point, right??
al h.
09/07/2006
<< <i>The coin is a typical $200-300 toned Morgan. That price is nothing short of silly. I've sold many much nicer than that to board members. Chris >>
Anytime you've got more of these for $200/$300 be sure to let me know. I'm ready to back up the truck!
<< <i><<... posting to some esoteric out of the way message board. >>
I thought that was interesting also.
But a MS62 - MS63 common coin is only going for maybe $65 or so; so obviously I am clueless as to how it could be worth $3,800.
that was kinda funny as well, even if it is becoming a prevailing thought.
I would vote for NT, but certainly (IMHO) too much money!
You pretty sure about that morgannut?
Why don't you post an image of your library....or do you get all of your information about coins from uh....your butt?
(And for any of you who thinks "Wow, Crane, all he did was criticize the coin....", you should know that for the past many months, almost nothing can be said with regard to anything connected to me, that stman doesn't get in there in and have critical remarks to make.
Objective criticism I can handle, but criticism coming from someone with an adgenda - one which isn't to render an honest opinion - is something I'm not just going to stand by and keep silent about. And if you can show me two threads where stman has said ANYTHING positive about anything connected to me, then I will reevaluate my thinking but I'm pretty sure even stman won't come to his own defense for some lame reason. You should just know when someone isn't honestly rendering an opinion. So, maybe you should even wonder about any opinion he makes, if you haven't already figured out what kind of person he is.)
Adrian - Just in case you're wrong, this one's available for $49.95 plus shipping.
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Whether or not it will get into an NGC or PCGS holder is another thing.
Why don't we all just start making a wager on it? (Of course, it might actually already be in a holder, eh?)
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Hi Anaconda, I don't know that there will ever be any type of unquestionable scientific proof as to whether a toned coin is good or bad, however most people who are serious experienced dealers/collectors can usually spot the bad ones at a glance and with a high level of consistency.
From what I've seen, PCGS (and PCGS only) is also very proficient at weeding out the bad toned coins, as I've seen very very few coins in PCGS that I felt were 'iffy'.
<< <i>Even if we could agree on what the term "artificial toning" is, unless some process is developed to determine what artificial toning is, we'll never know whether or not it was artificially toned.
Whether or not it will get into an NGC or PCGS holder is another thing.
Why don't we all just start making a wager on it? (Of course, it might actually already be in a holder, eh?) >>
I thought Anaconda might have the thing slabbed, not tell anyone and then leap out from behind some numismatic shrubbery and announce 'Aha!'. Thats what I would do.
"Anytime you've got more of these for $200/$300 be sure to let me know. I'm ready to back up the truck!"
I'm SO SURPRISED that nobody has contacted me, being that rare & exceptional rainbow toners are being sold dirt cheap all over the place!
I can't think of a nice way to say this, so I'll just say it:
YOU DON'T HAVE A FREAKING CLUE!
At this point, based on what you have posted, you really wouldn't know a great toned coin if it came up and bit you on the bum!
Take that as rock solid free advise, and a challenge for you to improve your knowlege base, and resulting INFORMED appreciation, regarding rainbow toned coins.
Don't take this personally--at one time we ALL started out as a clueless virgin blank slate like you. Over time you will gain the experience, and skill necessary to have a learned opinion regarding this subject matter.
Until that time comes, you'd be best served not offering ludicrous opinions that expose your lack of knowledge, and spouting off for others to: "shut thier trap."
<< <i>Anyway, I'm pretty sure this isn't artificially toned. (I say that with the same 'style' that one might say "I'm pretty sure my parents don't collect shrunken heads.") >>
Mr. Eureka says...
<< <i>Adrian - Just in case you're wrong, this one's available for $49.95 plus shipping. >>
Anaconda says.....
<< <i>That one's made out of goatskin. I prefe mine which is made out of a human. I'm looking for another one made out of stman's head. >>
I haven't responded to you in a year and a half. This looks to me as an all and out threat of physical violence, or the solicitation to have my head cut-off. Sad, very sad.
byergo, Anyone here is entitled to have their opinion whether you think they are knowledgeable or not.
Toning that has genuine eye appeal will add to value for those that appreciate eye appeal.
Actually - I prefer the terms IT and AT.
IT: Intentional toning
AT: Accidental toning
This one appears to be IT but has a few of the characteristics of AT.
Sorry....best I can do.
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<< <i>Anyway, I'm pretty sure this isn't artificially toned. (I say that with the same 'style' that one might say "I'm pretty sure my parents don't collect shrunken heads.") >>
Mr. Eureka says...
<< <i>Adrian - Just in case you're wrong, this one's available for $49.95 plus shipping. >>
Anaconda says.....
<< <i>That one's made out of goatskin. I prefe mine which is made out of a human. I'm looking for another one made out of stman's head. >>
I haven't responded to you in a year and a half. This looks to me as an all and out threat of physical violence, or the solicitation to have my head cut-off. Sad, very sad. >>
<< <i>"This looks to me as an all and out threat of physical violence, or the solicitation to have my head cut-off. Sad, very sad. "
I don't take this lightly. Afraid?... Nope. But I guess I will let my family and the proper authorities know about this if for some reason
you decide to make good on this, which In my opinion is a threat to my life.
EDIT TO ADD:
Anaconda says....
<< <i>And for any of you who thinks "Wow, Crane, all he did was criticize the coin....", you should know that for the past many months, almost nothing can be said with regard to anything connected to me, that stman doesn't get in there in and have critical remarks to make. >>
For at least a year now, I don't think I've even responded much (if at all) in any thread that you have created, or about you.
If I did respond to anything it was probably an opinion on a coin just like in this thread. I said nothing about you in this thread whatsoever.
Even when you were getting flamed (in previous threads) I tried my best to stay out. YOU on the other hand have trolled me trying to "Bring me out"
to start a flame between you and me.
We had some bad blood a year and a half ago, and you just won't let it go. I don't want to waste the time of the board to go back and forth
with you. I'd invite you over for coffee or something but my address has changed since you had it last.
My phone number is the same though, if you want to get over this in private and call me.... that's good with me.
If not, that's good with me as well. But I'm Not going to get in a bunch of back and forth on this board with you.
I told you that a year and a half ago, and my position still stands.
But the fact of the matter of some of your statements about wanting my head still stand. I guess you felt you had to think of something
to finally make me respond. AND, I was ignoring that for a while but you see I have the same problem as you...
I back down from nobody.
<< <i><<< Even if we could agree on what the term "artificial toning" is, unless some process is developed to determine what artificial toning is, we'll never know whether or not it was artificially toned. >>>
Hi Anaconda, I don't know that there will ever be any type of unquestionable scientific proof as to whether a toned coin is good or bad, however most people who are serious experienced dealers/collectors can usually spot the bad ones at a glance and with a high level of consistency.
From what I've seen, PCGS (and PCGS only) is also very proficient at weeding out the bad toned coins, as I've seen very very few coins in PCGS that I felt were 'iffy'. >>
This is exactly the way I feel, and most long time Morgan collectors who have experience with toned Morgans feel the same way. It's usually the Johnny-come-lately types who declare otherwise.
Marc
"Anytime you've got more of these for $200/$300 be sure to let me know. I'm ready to back up the truck!"
I'm SO SURPRISED that nobody has contacted me, being that rare & exceptional rainbow toners are being sold dirt cheap all over the place! "
This is where the rubber meets the road, folks.
Amazing how that yellow got on there so nicely too.
Then I noticed the nasty rim ding on the reverse at 7:00 o'clock.
Would that keep it out of a PCGS slab you think?