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I Just Recieved The Two Worst Graded MS67 Lincolns I Have Ever Seen From Heritage!!!!

jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
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Now I read I can't send them back!! The Pics didn't look that bad!!! image

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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Why can't you return them?

    Cameron Kiefer
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    33.Exclusively Internet, CurrencyAuction.com, Amazing Comics Auctions™ and Bullet auctions: THREE (3) DAY RETURN POLICY. All lots (Exception: Third party graded notes are not returnable for any reason whatsoever) paid for within seven days of the auction closing are sold with a three (3) day return privilege. You may return lots under the following conditions: Within three days of receipt of the lot, you must first notify Auctioneer by contacting Customer Service by phone (1-800-872-6467) or e-mail (Bid@HeritageGalleries. com), and immediately mail the lot(s) fully insured to the attention of Returns, Heritage, 3500 Maple Avenue, 17th Floor, Dallas TX 75219-3941. Lots must be housed intact in their original holder and condition. You are responsible for the insured, safe delivery of any lots. A non-negotiable return fee of 5% of the purchase price ($10 per lot minimum) will be deducted from the refund for each returned lot or billed directly. Postage and handling fees are not refunded. After the three-day period (from receipt), no items may be returned for any reason. Late remittance for purchases revokes all Return-Restock privileges.
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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    You waited longer than three days?

    Cameron Kiefer
  • slideridersliderider Posts: 1,834
    It says 'notes' are not returnable not coins. As long as you are still within the allowed 3 days, and follow their instructions to the letter, you should still be ok. Call their customer service number to be sure.
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  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    I'm gonna call!!
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Don't you know Heritage buys the dregs of the grades at rock bottom prices and then sells them for high end market prices?
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    I called, was sent to voice mail. Voice mail recorded long enough to leave name and number!! Geez!!!
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031


    << <i>Don't you know Heritage buys the dregs of the grades at rock bottom prices and then sells them for high end market prices? >>


    This was an auction.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I dislike their pics. esp. copper.
    coinimaging.com/my photography articles Check out the new macro lens testing section
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    "This was an auction."

    Which means that they DIDN'T own the coin? image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Let see some pics, next to the Heritage pics. And I agree, you should be able to return them.
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    The post auction pics are worse. I'll post em!!
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
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  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    RBinTex, In an auction, Heritage does not own the coins. They sold coins for me before. And they did a good job!!
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    Still waiting for a return call. image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yer all in a tizzy! image

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those look like the pics I get off my flatbed scanner. What do the pics look like on their site if you use the zoom feature?


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • maddogalemaddogale Posts: 859 ✭✭
    Jonesy, not to rub salt in the wound, but hasn't there been several threads posted here about Heritage's lack of photo-ability in regards to coins? It seems to me that they would do well to hire someone of some talent to do their auction coins, such as Jeremy. image but then, they might not get the bids they want if the coins were actually represented as they truly are...........maybe I just answered the question here......image
    "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on; I don't do these things to other people, I require the same from them."
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    I could have told you the 38-S is a dog. But the 38-D doesn't look half bad.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    I buy regularly from Heritage. Their coins always look better in person.
  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    <<< RBinTex, In an auction, Heritage does not own the coins >>>

    Not true, especially in the Exclusively Internet auctions, much of which is their unsold retail inventory in my experiences.
  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    The PCGS grade review sounds like your best bet.

    David
    Lincolncentman Toned Lincolns
  • jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    The 38D has way too many hits. The 38S doesn't have a full strike!! image
  • jacktheknifejacktheknife Posts: 1,547 ✭


    Be careful, Jonesy. About 6 months ago I bought a coin through Heritage auction that was an absolute dog. I returned the coin. Heritage then contacted me to let me know they were going to charge me 5%, to which I agreed. I reported it here because I was a little suprised with the charge. I got totally flamed. The worst flaming I've ever taken on the boards. A few things I learned through the whole experience:

    #1. Heritage is a great company, despite what many say on these boards. Talk to them. If you are a good customer, they will work with you.

    #2. Consignors don't like their coins being returned. I must agree, even though I returned a coin. Under bidders are likely to see the coin as "a problem coin" the next time it comes up for auction.

    #3 Heritage absolutely must do something about their imaging. This should almost be #1, it is a huge problem. For a company that boasts about the number of internet bidders it has registered, it sure doesn't seem concerned about letting those customers actually see the coin.

    #4. Be careful about posting anything provocative on these boards. If you create that "Stampede" you want, just be sure it isn't heading right at you!

    Jack
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Great post Jack. I returned a Lincoln 3 years ago with a hidden spot on the reverse and, after examining the coin and their photos, they were nice enough to give me a refund. They've changed their Signature return policy for online bidders since then, which I totally understand. But if they're going to encourage online bidding they really do need to address the quality of their copper images. If you can't make the show and don't have anyone to preview the coin for you, you're bidding on blind faith in the label and a gut feeling about the photo in most cases.
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>address the quality of their copper images

    Copper images? How about ALL their images? Their gold coins always look to have a beautiful yellow/gold look but in person they are often just dull gold. The silver and nickel are just as bad. Plus, given NGC's white holder most of those coins turn out dark and useless as a picture. Although, I think NGC should really change their slab, Heritage in the mean time should take a bit more time with their photography.

    They need to improve big-time with their photos if they really want sight-unseen buyers to bid. I don't recommend that but if Heritage wants participation then improving their photos HAS to be the starting point.

    jom
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    be careful what you bid for sight unseen ............. you might get it

    michael
  • slideridersliderider Posts: 1,834
    They both look red-brown to me, not full red. Either the grade is wrong, or the coins darkened in the slab. You might have to try the PCGS grade guarantee on these if Heritage doesn't get back to you.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Let's face it...for the world's largest dealer they have the world's worst pictures. Either too dark, too light...I'll bet 80% of the posters HERE cound do better. Now ask yourself, considering that this business is one of absolute scrutiny, ie. grading, why do they KEEP them that way. The do NOT think they are good...they are not that unaware...so is it a smokescreen? It's fishy to me. And I notice that their live auction coins have slightly better pics...hummmmm. (but only slightly).
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  • earlwbollingerearlwbollinger Posts: 1,304
    I don't know, they look pretty good to me.
    I'd probably buy them if someone hadn't already done so.
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "be careful what you bid for sight unseen ............. you might get it"

    like sight unseemly

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

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