Adrian I've spoken up for you more than once. It's been a pleasure to have bought from you and traded a few misc thoughts KJ ---> listening to Sheryl Crow ... There Goes the Neighborhood
I guess I am not one of the "connoisseur collectors" as Anaconda says they want. Anything I saw that looked interesting is priced way too high even if it looks especially pretty. No, I have not heard of Anaconda screwing someone in a coin deal, but I'll bet their markup on some coins is often a bit more than 15%. Sorry, but not for me.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
I had the pleasure of buying a killer AU58 Bust Half from Adrian....................and would do it again. I have sold a couple of killer coins to him too. He is one of the most honest individuals I have come across in over 20+ years of buying and selling coins.
Cheryl........."She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot." - Mark Twain
Brandon and I had a slight miscommunication very recently and he erred on the side of the customer (me). To me, that speaks VOLUMES! (BTW, it was not a price/money issue).
You must not have read the description properly. >>
"Revised" >>
What is your angle? I never revised that listing. It's how it was when I first typed it. I can't believe you would accuse me of that. Can someone please respond with this matter in mind? I have many other character witnesses on these boards and I'll be damned if you question my integrity. I've tolerated alot since I've moved back down south but one thing that drills a hole in my soul is someone questioning my integrity.
You must not have read the description properly. >>
"Revised" >>
What is your angle? I never revised that listing. It's how it was when I first typed it. I can't believe you would accuse me of that. Can someone please respond with this matter in mind? I have many other character witnesses on these boards and I'll be damned if you question my dignity. I've tolerated alot since I've moved back down south but one thing that drills a hole in my soul is someone questioning my dignity. >>
I don't have an angle...Do YOU This is simple...Adrian asked if anyone has ever heard of ANACONDA screwing anyone...I answered with a link to an auction (Titled it "I've seen him try...") . Listing that coin for $10,000.00 is trying to screw someone (PERIOD). A disclaimer about not really wanting to sell it is fine....(kinda like a IF you can get this coin certified....Ohhhh that's another story). His coins are over priced - some in the I'll DEFINATELY screw you range. He asked I answered.
No agenda...No angle...Just common sense and truth.
Just for the record....I never accussed you of anything nor did I question your dignity Brandon....I simply pointed out that the Description had been revised.
I'm talking about the description of the coin. That never changed. We periodically change the purhcasing information and image URL's IN THE DESCRIPTION. NOT THE DESCRIPTION OF THE COIN ITSELF!
Question ones "dignity"?
Whoops, integrity is what I meant. It was late. Sorry.
Sorry Brandon, it clearly shows the description was changed.
You must not know much about eBay and our template. Only a small part of the "description" is the actual description of the coin. We have images of the coin, template images, purchasing information, ect. There as a time when we went through every single listing and updated the purhcasing information to reflect our new 1800 number and it says on every listing that the description was changed when the actual paragraph or two about the coin was never touched.
I don't know much, But I kinda remember If you get this coins graded by PCGS or NGC I'll pay big money. Selling an Anacs AT toned coin raw Just doesn't come off to well with me But Hey that's JMO
<< <i>Sorry Brandon, it clearly shows the description was changed. >>
What difference does it make if the description was changed? The "description" section of Ebay has a lot of different information, but even sometimes you might need to change your actual description to add something that may make it more clear, or maybe you made an error.
Why is that a big deal, and how do you get that he tried to screw someone with that?
Cheryl........."She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot." - Mark Twain
I have only met Adrian once. It was at a small coin show in Texas (Richardson I believe) a few years ago. I as usual, did not have a very large amount of money in my pocket, and asked if he had any179x coins in that range. He said he did not but pointed out another dealer who he said he thought had one. We chatted for a little while and I mentioned I recognized his name from these boards. He was very cordial and not at all rude or cold. I have had experiences at shows where dealers are not at all friendly once they find out my budget (usually no more than a few hundred dollars). I'm not hating on high end dealers, many are very friendly as well. I mention this because it is my impression Adrian deals in primarily higher end coins. Truth be told I am in awe of collectors and dealers who deal regularly in what are my dream coins, coins I may never have, and I had prepared myself to be possibly treated like a small fish. I don't care, I understand business and I'm used to it (I *am* a small fish and I know it) and I was pleasantly surprised to be treated more like a fellow collector than a business opportunity with no reward.
I am sure Adrian does not need me for a character witness, but the experience stuck with me as one of the better ones I have ever had with a high end dealer. In any case, to answer the question, no, I have never heard of Anaconda screwing someone in a coin deal.
I have never met and know very little about Anaconda, other than what has been posted on these boards. After reading this thread I decided to look at his e-bay auctions. Here's a couple of the coins I looked at.
1898 Barber Half NGC PF-68 Star Cameo Ex-Hugon Anaconda price $25,000.00 Heritage Auction Realized.......$16,000.00
1836 Gobrecht PCGS PF-55 Original...............$23,500.00 I recently sold an 1836 Gobrecht NGC-64 Original for...........$26,500.00
I don't know if he expexts to sell the coins posted on ebay for the list price or just uses it for advertising purposes? Then sells the coin for less if someone makes and inquiry about the listed coin? Sounds like he is a friendly guy and he does have a good eye for pretty coins.
<< <i>Why is that a big deal, and how do you get that he tried to screw someone with that? >>
It's a big deal because Brandon first said the auction was not revised, then changed his story.
Please show me where in this thread I said he tried to screw someone.
This nine month old thread was bumped by the snake, probably because once again he needed some attention. >>
But when the link was posted, it was posted as << I've seen him try... >> which indicates that revising a description is somehow trying to screw someone. And Brandon said he didn't revise the description and just added a 1-800 number. I still don't get it.
Cheryl........."She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot." - Mark Twain
Let me also say...Brandons reply to my post was "You must not have read the description properly" I replied with "Revised". I accused him of NOTHING. I simply was pointing out that was revised, which means the world will never know what it originally said.
I don't care if it said "DON'T BUY THIS"....It is still out there for the purpose of some unknowing sap to pull the trigger on.
<< <i>I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
<<ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts>>
TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for?
<< <i><< I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
<<ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts>>
TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
Sounds like a classic Ponzi scheme.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i><< I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
<<ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts>>
TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
Yes, my opinion would then be: Damn...he got SCREWED on the purchase of that coin.
<< <i>TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
<< <i>Yes, my opinion would then be: Damn...he got SCREWED on the purchase of that coin >>
Glad to hear you are open minded.
That leads me to my next point - I think your original comment would have been less unfair/absolute had you said:
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 (APPEARS to be) trying to screw SOMEBODY (even if they aren't)".
Instead of :
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY".
<< <i>TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
<< <i>Yes, my opinion would then be: Damn...he got SCREWED on the purchase of that coin >>
Glad to hear you are open minded.
That leads me to my next point - I think your original comment would have been less unfair/absolute had you said:
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 (APPEARS to be) trying to screw SOMEBODY (even if they aren't)".
Instead of :
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY". >>
I guess it all depends on what my definition of "is" is. It "appears" you are mincing words.
I guess by a few of you on here, ( and you know who you are), any dealer that makes a profit from a sale just screwed someone...it just depends on how bad the screw job was. I like Anaconda, and see no problem with his auctions. If you don't want the damn coin for the price he asks, then pass on it. Boy, some of you crybabies need to get a life. I'm sure the people that can afford Anaconda's coins have enough brains to be careful how they spend their money...On the other hand, you jealous kids need to buy what you can afford, it might amaze you that others may even be as smart as you.
I'm sure some people wouldn't complain if they got screwed in addition to buying a coin
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value of the coin.
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What is prompting this thread? Have I missed something?
Adrian
KJ ---> listening to Sheryl Crow ... There Goes the Neighborhood
<< <i>Adrian has always been straight with me. >>
Is he a straight screw?
siliconvalleycoins.com
John, Adrian was very careful to title the thread "... in a coin deal." Band camp was an entirely different and confusing time for Adrian.
When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
Thomas Paine
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I have sold a couple of killer coins to him too.
He is one of the most honest individuals I have come across
in over 20+ years of buying and selling coins.
<< <i>I have heard rumors that Adrian charges republicans more for shipping and handling. >>
Cher-Wood Forest Aviary
POTD - May 26, 2005
<< <i>I've seen him try... >>
You must not have read the description properly.
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<< <i>I've seen him try... >>
You must not have read the description properly. >>
"Revised"
Thanks Brandon.
Doug
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<< <i>I've seen him try... >>
You must not have read the description properly. >>
"Revised" >>
What is your angle? I never revised that listing. It's how it was when I first typed it. I can't believe you would accuse me of that. Can someone please respond with this matter in mind? I have many other character witnesses on these boards and I'll be damned if you question my integrity. I've tolerated alot since I've moved back down south but one thing that drills a hole in my soul is someone questioning my integrity.
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<< <i>I've seen him try... >>
You must not have read the description properly. >>
"Revised" >>
What is your angle? I never revised that listing. It's how it was when I first typed it. I can't believe you would accuse me of that. Can someone please respond with this matter in mind? I have many other character witnesses on these boards and I'll be damned if you question my dignity. I've tolerated alot since I've moved back down south but one thing that drills a hole in my soul is someone questioning my dignity. >>
I don't have an angle...Do YOU
No agenda...No angle...Just common sense and truth.
<< <i>I never revised that listing. >>
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
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<< <i>I never revised that listing. >>
Busted!
I'm talking about the description of the coin. That never changed. We periodically change the purhcasing information and image URL's IN THE DESCRIPTION. NOT THE DESCRIPTION OF THE COIN ITSELF!
Question ones "dignity"?
Whoops, integrity is what I meant. It was late. Sorry.
Perhaps "the boys" take care of any trouble makers
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You must not know much about eBay and our template. Only a small part of the "description" is the actual description of the coin. We have images of the coin, template images, purchasing information, ect. There as a time when we went through every single listing and updated the purhcasing information to reflect our new 1800 number and it says on every listing that the description was changed when the actual paragraph or two about the coin was never touched.
But I kinda remember If you get this coins graded by PCGS or NGC
I'll pay big money.
Selling an Anacs AT toned coin raw
Just doesn't come off to well with me
But Hey that's JMO
<< <i>Sorry Brandon, it clearly shows the description was changed. >>
What difference does it make if the description was changed? The "description" section of Ebay has a lot of different information, but even sometimes you might need to change your actual description to add something that may make it more clear, or maybe you made an error.
Why is that a big deal, and how do you get that he tried to screw someone with that?
Cher-Wood Forest Aviary
POTD - May 26, 2005
I am sure Adrian does not need me for a character witness, but the experience stuck with me as one of the better ones I have ever had with a high end dealer. In any case, to answer the question, no, I have never heard of Anaconda screwing someone in a coin deal.
After reading this thread I decided to look at his e-bay auctions. Here's a couple of the coins I looked at.
1898 Barber Half NGC PF-68 Star Cameo Ex-Hugon
Anaconda price $25,000.00
Heritage Auction Realized.......$16,000.00
1836 Gobrecht PCGS PF-55 Original...............$23,500.00
I recently sold an 1836 Gobrecht NGC-64 Original for...........$26,500.00
I don't know if he expexts to sell the coins posted on ebay for the list price or just uses it for advertising purposes? Then sells the coin for less if someone makes and inquiry about the listed coin?
Sounds like he is a friendly guy and he does have a good eye for pretty coins.
<< <i>Why is that a big deal, and how do you get that he tried to screw someone with that? >>
It's a big deal because Brandon first said the auction was not revised, then changed his story.
Please show me where in this thread I said he tried to screw someone.
This nine month old thread was bumped by the snake, probably because once again he needed some attention.
<< <i>
<< <i>Why is that a big deal, and how do you get that he tried to screw someone with that? >>
It's a big deal because Brandon first said the auction was not revised, then changed his story.
Please show me where in this thread I said he tried to screw someone.
This nine month old thread was bumped by the snake, probably because once again he needed some attention. >>
But when the link was posted, it was posted as << I've seen him try... >> which indicates that revising a description is somehow trying to screw someone. And Brandon said he didn't revise the description and just added a 1-800 number. I still don't get it.
Cher-Wood Forest Aviary
POTD - May 26, 2005
<< <i>I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts.
I don't care if it said "DON'T BUY THIS"....It is still out there for the purpose of some unknowing sap to pull the trigger on.
<< <i>
<< <i>I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
<<ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts>>
TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for?
<< <i><< I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
<<ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts>>
TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
Sounds like a classic Ponzi scheme.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i><< I didn't say that, Tumuss did. Follow the quotations. >>
<<ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY.
I stand by my posts>>
TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
Yes, my opinion would then be: Damn...he got SCREWED on the purchase of that coin.
<< <i>TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
<< <i>Yes, my opinion would then be: Damn...he got SCREWED on the purchase of that coin >>
Glad to hear you are open minded.
That leads me to my next point - I think your original comment would have been less unfair/absolute had you said:
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 (APPEARS to be) trying to screw SOMEBODY (even if they aren't)".
Instead of :
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY".
<< <i>
<< <i>TUMUSS, I know nothing about the coin in question, nor do I care to. But, hypothetically, would your opinion change if the seller had paid $9000 for the coin he was asking $10,000 for? >>
<< <i>Yes, my opinion would then be: Damn...he got SCREWED on the purchase of that coin >>
Glad to hear you are open minded.
That leads me to my next point - I think your original comment would have been less unfair/absolute had you said:
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 (APPEARS to be) trying to screw SOMEBODY (even if they aren't)".
Instead of :
"ANYONE that lists a Modern "Market Acceptable" Toned Commemorative for $10,000.00 is trying to screw SOMEBODY". >>
I guess it all depends on what my definition of "is" is. It "appears" you are mincing words.
<< <i>I guess it all depends on what my definition of "is" is. It "appears" you are mincing words. >>
Agreed - it must be the (non-practicing) attorney in me
Thanks Anaconda....I appreciate your coins.
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