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RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
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...harassing the poor Asian businessman:

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My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man, Mark's feedback's not so good... image
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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep! I especially like the feedback comment 'bold as brass !'

    A badge of honor for who-ever that masked man is! hi o silver away!
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    I see two out of three of his negs are from now-NARU'ed snakeweasels. image

    ...and quite a few positives from centsles! image

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  • slideridersliderider Posts: 1,834
    Better watch out, Mark, or you might get NARUd as a deadbeat. image
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    that sneaky St. Feldini!
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good for you Mark...

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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    Why is that guy even allowed to sell his junk on ebay?? image
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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have bought from centsles, nothing but professional service.

    I do think it is ironic that 2 of the 3 are NARU, and the third is quite recent. I suppose if the sellers want to push it, they can work with Ebay as the go between to prove Mark incorrect (not likely to happen).

    Kudos Mark.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mark,
    Very cool !! Expose these weasels for what they really are !!!
    Paul
    My Ebay Coin Store
  • techefftecheff Posts: 2,285
    Man, his feedback sux. Time to block him! image
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I retract my earlier dig at centsles. 'Twasn't fair, as I have never done business with him.

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  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    ttt


    michael
  • HootHoot Posts: 867 ✭
    That's fantastic! Good job Mark! image

    Hoot
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Often, I am tempted to expose numerous sellers on Ebay, for the scammers and crooks that they are. But, I try to be fair and selective about it.

    I will hit them with the negative feedback when I know they are selling a coin they couldn't possibly own or when I know the coin is fake.

    For example, in the auction linked in this thread, the coin was an 1883 Trade Dollar. That year was a proof-only issue, but the one imaged 1) does not appear to be a proof and 2) unlike a genuine 1883 Trade Dollar, it bears an "S" mintmark! That, along with seeing the same seller offer several other fake coins,was enough for meimage

    Interestingly, I received an email from Ebay indicating that the seller was amenable to mutually withdrawing the negative feedback we had left each other. Now why would I want to do that?image
  • JadeRareCoinJadeRareCoin Posts: 2,768 ✭

    Mark, please keep up the great work. That's awesome!!
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    She called Mark a pig. LOL Anyone for pork fried rice?
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  • RGTRGT Posts: 508 ✭✭


    << <i>I retract my earlier dig at centsles. 'Twasn't fair, as I have never done business with him. >>



    I have done business with him. Three times. I will say he honors his return policy with no problem. I did keep one of the coins, but on reflection, I should have returned that one too.
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328 ✭
    Never had a problem w/centsless. In fact, has always been very professional and extremely quick in his feedback and shipping.
  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Good job coinguy1.
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭


    << <i>Never had a problem w/centsless. In fact, has always been very professional and extremely quick in his feedback and shipping. >>





    Ditto
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I retract my earlier dig at centsles. 'Twasn't fair, as I have never done business with him. >>


    He deserves the dig.

    Here's a guy who is a top-notch grader, but sells mostly NTC slabs. Previously he sold mostly ACG slabs. How guys like this can sleep at night is beyond me. I'd never buy from him, even the PCGS stuff.
  • TsimmerdownTsimmerdown Posts: 361 ✭
    "bold as brass?" "turpitude?"

    turpitude synonyms = depravity, evil, corruption, demoralization, deterioration, vileness, sinfulness, perversion
    Tim
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've bought about half a dozen PCGS-graded Jeffersons from Centsles. Every one has been shipped quickly and safely, and I've been thoroughly satisfied.

    But I never bid on any of their stuff in third world holders.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    I only buy PCGS and NGC certified coins on Ebay and my few transactions with Centsles have been excellent in every respect.
  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I retract my earlier dig at centsles. 'Twasn't fair, as I have never done business with him. >>


    He deserves the dig.

    Here's a guy who is a top-notch grader, but sells mostly NTC slabs. Previously he sold mostly ACG slabs. How guys like this can sleep at night is beyond me. I'd never buy from him, even the PCGS stuff. >>



    In some of the literature surrounding the grading company lawsuit, Centles was one of those allegedly victimized by the grading company.
  • puffpuff Posts: 1,475


    << <i>

    << <i>I retract my earlier dig at centsles. 'Twasn't fair, as I have never done business with him. >>


    He deserves the dig.

    Here's a guy who is a top-notch grader, but sells mostly NTC slabs. Previously he sold mostly ACG slabs. How guys like this can sleep at night is beyond me. I'd never buy from him, even the PCGS stuff. >>



    I've never bought anything from "centsles", but in the past I have asked him specific questions on a couple of different occasions, (through Ebays ask seller a question format), and after 2 or 3 attempts at refreshing his memory on my questions on each occasion I never once got a response from him.....

    So I've never bothered looking at any of his auctions since....... Personally because of his grading ability I would imagine the reason he didn't answer any of my questions was because he would have had to answer my questions to the affirmative in order for me to have placed a bid on his auctions, and since he couldn't answer them in that manner I feel that he might not be the best choice of a seller to buy from, plus the fact that most of his sales are from lesser grading services.image
  • KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329
    Good job Mark, and by the way I am still batting 1000 (no bodybags).

    Wally
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's possible that because of Centsles top grading skills, he may be able to indentify and cherry-pick superior coins which happen to be in non-PCGS & NGC certified slabs, and perhaps purchase them at bargain prices that he can pass on to his clients.

    I would hope that he would only purchase these sight-seen, so that he does not have to reply on the TPGS's specified grades, but can make hsi own assessment of their grade.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Stuart,
    From testimony at the ANA ACG vs. Stuppler hearings last year, Centsles would bring hundreds of raw coins to ACG for slabbing.
  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭


    << <i>Stuart,
    From testimony at the ANA ACG vs. Stuppler hearings last year, Centsles would bring hundreds of raw coins to ACG for slabbing. >>



    Yeah that hearing is interesting reading, especially the testimony of the former ACG employee regarding how Centles was treated.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Isn't there an old saying, "there's no honor among thieves?" (not that I'm implying it has anything to do with any comments or individuals mentioned in this thread)
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What I find interesting, concerning Centsles and the hearing & his grading ability is what I read about it....

    1) He would do hundreds of raw coins with ACG
    2) He would pay for his bill with some of those coins that got graded
    3) The ex-employee stated that ACG would intentionally undergrade the coins so they got more of them in trade
    4) They would take the coins in trade, with the low grades, and grade them higher so they could increase their profit
    5) If Centsles is such a good grader, how could he keep getting screwed like this????

    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>4) They would take the coins in trade, with the low grades, and grade them higher so they could increase their profit 5) If Centsles is such a good grader, how could he keep getting screwed like this???? >>

    Bochiman, if the above did happen, I don't think it necessarily reflects on the grading ability of the seller, but rather how high someone chose to grade the coins.

    Hypothetically, someone could be the world's best/most consistent grader and sell (certified or uncertified) coins, which are subsequently graded higher and sold for large profits. Maybe the initial seller didn't charge as much as he could/should have, but that doesn't mean his grading was sub-par.
  • ddbirdddbird Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭
    I have also enjoyed doing business with Centsles!
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  • UncleWigglyUncleWiggly Posts: 2,467
    Is this a good seller gone bad? Or a good seller that just did a couple bad things? Some of you obviously know who the seller is. Did he know the trade dollar was fake? And trying to pull one on purpose?


    Jerry
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Jerry, to my knowledge, the seller of the Ebay item (who is not Centsles, the dealer being discussed in much of this thread) is unknown to the forum members. But, the seller offered several obviously counterfeit coins recently. I have no way of knowing if he knew they were fakes, but I strongly suspect it.
  • snapmohrsnapmohr Posts: 307
    I tried to look at the feedback and it is now private so it can not be viewed. this just should not be allowed...I mean isn't that the point to the feeback to start with...so that other people can see the comments? This to me just makes it easier for them to scam others.

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