Will Grading services ever date their slabs ?

wam98

Or does anyone know if there is a database to find out the date of grading and slabbing ? I'm sure the grading services have records that they themselves use.

kranky

The grading service knows, but they will never date their slabs. They maintain that the grading in 1990 is the same as today's grading, and therefore dates are irrelevant. The standards are unchanging.

However, it's possible to narrow down when a coin was graded by variations in the physical slabs and the labeling. Board member conder101 wrote an entire book on that subject.

dollardude

I think Cameron also has done extensive research on dates, based on sample slab types. You can always date a slab if you keep the original submission paperwork.

nwcs

They have no incentive to put a date on their slabs.

homerunhall

ANACS used to date their certificates in the early 80s. A two and three tier market developed, i.e different prices for old and new certs. I think the new certs were worth more than the old certs.

When we started PCGS we wanted to have one market...one price. So we purposely did not date our holders and we assign cert numbers on a somewhat random basis.

David

mgoodm3

<< <i>ANACS used to date their certificates in the early 80s. A two and three tier market developed, i.e different prices for old and new certs. I think the new certs were worth more than the old certs.

When we started PCGS we wanted to have one market...one price. So we purposely did not date our holders and we assign cert numbers on a somewhat random basis.

David >>



The more you try to help someone with something, the more they'll try to use it against you.

oreville

homerunhall: But PCGS DOES ocassionally date their slabs for me!

This is an authentic PCGS slab dated in 1995 and also indicated that it was slabbed at the ANA show.

kieferscoins

But you had to pay $50 extra for that slab orville at the time for the pedigree of their choice

Cameron Kiefer

oreville

kiefercoin:

Exactly my point. Of course there is an extra fee. You expect PCGS to date their slabs for free?

By the way, you and I know that sample slabs have numerous dating approaches. They commemorate a show, a wedding (Lange comes to mind), luncheons, etc., etc.

It would be interesting to put together an internet pictural dated slab set whether sample slabs or not. I have put toether a decent amount of them without specifically focusing on the dating idea.

Steve27

I'm hoping that one day PCGS will provide the slab dating information; there isn't a good reason for them not to (just read David's post).

dorkkarl

how about an expiration date?

K S

Aethelred

No serious TPG will date their slabs, but I could see some third-rate service doing it at some point.

BTW - Oreville, I love the buttons in your sig line, does that 1900 McKinley/Roosevelt really have a red background? I don't believe I have seen that one before.

khayse

There is a database with the submission # and which coins were in it. This data base has dates in it.

There is, presumably, another database for the cert verification. It wouldn't be too hard to use the 2 together to tell you
which submission batch your coin came from and when PCGS received it and then shipped it out.

-KHayse