1875-S 20 Cent Piece -- Pretty Coin (Not Mine) -- Your Observations & Comments

Stuart

Here's an 1875-S 20 Cent Piece in PCGS AU-58 which caught my attention, that was auctioned yesterday evening on E-Bay for ~$450. I do not own the coin.

Since I am not too familiar with 20 Centers, I watched the auction and thought that the coin had a nice look to it, although the irregular toning was a bit distracting, and it appears to have a hazy toned look to it.

What do you 20 Cent experts think about this coin from the perspective of quality versus sales price. Did it go for a fair or a cheap price, and do you feel that it's a high quality 20 Center?? Thanks!!

SethChandler

DIP IT!!!

RYK

I like 20c'ers but am no expert. Unlike most people, however, I have one.

I like the coin that you posted, Stuart. I like the toning (cannot stand the blast white and homogeneous light gray seated coins). If I were to buy one circulation strike piece, I would buy the 75-CC.

Bikingnut

Another fine example of an AU58. You can get very nice quality coins in this grade if you just look.

coppercoins

I don't see any wear. My take is a hazy, unevenly colored MS62.

RYK

Here's a nice one that is on the market:

lordmarcovan

I'd have liked the 75-S above, but for the irregular toning. (Which looks to me like the sort that will not dip off easily). An otherwise good-looking coin, but those black-brown streaks and splotches kill it for me, I'm afraid.

astrorat

The coin is a nice technical 58 (based on the photos). The coin is very well struck and exhibits little friction for a 58. The coin sold for strong money because of the holder as raw it would have brought a lot less. I am surprised it went over $400. I do not find the coin that attractive due to the unusual toning. Then again, in hand, it may be a very nice coin. It would really depend on the amount of luster underneath the toning. The buyer got a decent coin, but not a bargain.

I just got an ANACS EF-45 in the mail a few minutes ago that was a lot better than I anticipated, so you never really know from photos.

Lane

michael

all cool 20 centers

i love your photo of the originally toned 1876 ryk

and looks like a deeply mirrored gem proof twenty cent piece a great eye appealling coin too most twenty centers do not have even good eye appeal


michael

K6AZ

Are these the actual images, or have you "improved" them?

itsnotjustme

Stuart,
I'm no expert, but have been looking for a type piece for a while. I saw that one and opted to pass. That haze and unattractive toning is a turn off for me.

I find these hard to find in MS63 or below with nice eye appeal. Any graded above are out of my league for price.

ms70

<< <i>DIP IT!!! >>



I'm not a dip fan but this was my thought too!

astrorat

<< <i>Stuart,
I'm no expert, but have been looking for a type piece for a while. I saw that one and opted to pass. That haze and unattractive toning is a turn off for me.

I find these hard to find in MS63 or below with nice eye appeal. Any graded above are out of my league for price. >>




They are out there, you just have to always be looking as nice, original pieces at reasonable prices, go very fast. Then again, it does depend on what you mean by "nice eye appeal".

Lane

WaterSport

Looks like it has a RPM which many 1875 20 centers do. Its a blob..not sharp.

WS

RYK

The 20 center I posted is a coin that is currently in the Mark Feld inventory.

Eric,

I do not know how to improve photos. I only know how to make them worse!

Here is a picture of my 1876 20c proof:



Photo by EVP

Stuart

Eric: Original Photo from the Auction.

astrorat

<< <i> Here is a picture of my 1876 20c proof: >>



RYK-

Please let me know if you ever feel that your 76-P proof becomes too much of a burden for your collection . . . translation . . . really nice coin and too bad it's not for sale!

Lane

K6AZ

<< <i>I do not know how to improve photos. I only know how to make them worse! >>



That's a beauty RYK. And you hit the nail on the head, a lot of images I have seen that have been "improved" have come out looking worse.

mgoodm3

The first one has a bit proof-like surfaces.

Baley

Stuart, I too noticed the auction for the coin you posted; my judgement was that it is a nice enough coin, but I found the toning distracting, particularly on the reverse

Another [former] pcgs 58, offered for comparison









(there are a lot of ways a coin can grade "58") I paid around $350 for this one, last year.

BillJones

The 1875-S 20 cent piece that started this string has been dipped, and the haze that you see on it is residue from the dipping. This may have been better left alone because it makes the rubber band mark (?) on the reverse (the long straight brownish-black line) look more prominent. Dipping might make this coin look better to some, but it won’t do away with that line. It will also remove more of the original surface and make the coin look duller.

Don’t get me wrong. This is a very presentable example of a 20 cent piece in the AU-50 grade. Most AU-50 graded coins are not this nice. But for my taste I’d soon own an original coin, like RYK posted in his picture.

Having said that, here’s my type coin, which has been dipped. It’s a PCGS MS-63. It has very strong luster and is really more attractive “in person” than it is in this picture.

Stuart

Bill and Baley: Thanks for sharing your coins with us, and for your comments on the one that was offered on E-Bay.

Baley: You mentioned that yours was a "former" AU-58... Did you resubmit it and get it back in a mint state holder??

Baley

Baley: You mentioned that yours was a "former" AU-58... Did you resubmit it and get it back in a mint state holder??

Hi Stuart. No sir, the coin is now "holdered" here:

Stuart

Balye: So, would you now consider the coin to be graded as a raw "Baley 63" or a "Baley 58" ??

Baley

Oh, I don't bother to assign numbers to them once they're in the book.

That particular coin now grades, "would probably cost more than $1000 to obtain a better looking one"

incidentally, that coin bumped this one down to the #2 set,



"the book for coins which have been upgraded"