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relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭
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I'd be happy selling this for $500

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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    Thats kind of thing really ticks me off.

    Of course it might have happened to rotate slightly in transit, but I think we all suspect that someone did a half assed job getting it into the holder and thought it was too much trouble to fix it.

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  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    Totally uncalled for!

    Ken
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Tap it on the edge of your palm hard and the coin will rotate back. Not that difficult.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭


    << <i>Tap it on the edge of your palm hard and the coin will rotate back. Not that difficult. >>



    It's more difficult then you think. The seller is in Pennsylvania and my arms aren't that long.
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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    image That does complicate thingsimage

    Cameron Kiefer
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>Tap it on the edge of your palm hard and the coin will rotate back. Not that difficult. >>

    Won't work with that type of slab! The coin is in there for the long haul!

    Ken
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tap it on the edge of your palm hard and the coin will rotate back. Not that difficult.

    Cameron did exactly that for me last June in Long Beach, with just that type of slab. image

    I've since done it with other late model pcgs coins, straightened 'em right out!

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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Thank you for verifying it can be done Baley. I have impressed tons of people with that trick because they think like ksteelheader and think it cannot be done. I don't even tap it that hard and it can be done with PCGS slabs other than the rattler holders!

    Cameron Kiefer
  • YousriYousri Posts: 477
    Well I fee; your pain. Send it to me I will yake care of it. image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Crack it out and resubmit it. I'm sure it will get a 70 again image
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I thought you were going to show a ms70 with spots all over it. If you acquire it, I want to see the results of the tapping on the palm trick... image
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  • slideridersliderider Posts: 1,834
    Why won't sellers let you use Paypal over $500.00??
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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It works on most heavy coins.
    Light ones can be tough.image
    Larry

  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    I sent these back for reholdering. A month later they shipped them back

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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    When they mis-mount the coins like that, do they charge you for reholdering?
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    Guys, that coin has a reeded edge and will not rotate in that type of slab with the soft insert! If you believe it can be done, fine, but I have tried it with reeded edge coins and it does not happen...

    Ken
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    Hi,
    that would not bother me at all. The tapping trick is an old trick, and it works just fine. But really, it is a 70 and we are collecting the coin right - what difference does this make? Does the plastic have an independant eye appeal that affects value or desirability? Not to me.

    Best,
    Billy image Nice 70!
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭


    << <i>When they mis-mount the coins like that, do they charge you for reholdering? >>



    No, it's a "mechanical error" and there is no charge for reholdering or return shipping.

    You do have to pay postage and insurance to send it back to PCGS though, so everybody wins image
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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭


    << <i>Guys, that coin has a reeded edge and will not rotate in that type of slab with the soft insert! If you believe it can be done, fine, but I have tried it with reeded edge coins and it does not happen >>



    I have done it with reeded edges and it works.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    Cameron, put up or shut up! Post a pic of a PCGS slab right now with a reeded edge coin in it with a shot of the serial number. Then, in ten minutes, post another picture of the same serialed # slab with the coin rotated. If you can't, then move on!

    Ken
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Ken, I would if I had a coin with a reeded edge. I don't.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>Ken, I would if I had a coin with a redded edge. I don't. >>

    No sample slabs with quarters?
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    Use this one!
    Or this one!
    Or, this one would work!
    How about this one??image
  • ddinkddink Posts: 2,748
    Ken, perhaps it can be done and you just aren't doing it right? I know many times in the past I've said something can't be done and then had a friend do it in about two seconds lol. My foot really doesn't taste that good =(
    I heard they were making a French version of Medal of Honor. I wonder how many hotkeys it'll have for "surrender."
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Since were buying the coin not the holder what does it matter?
    Seriously though, I think it could be rotated back. It probably rotated in transit and will rotate back but it will take more than your palm, probably take taping the corner on a table top.
    ksteelheader you see, the reeded edge does grip the neophrene ring securely but the entire coin & neophrene ring will rotate inside the slab.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    I personally watched David Hall do it, but, it was with an older style holder. I've cracked enough of these out to know how they are constructed!

    Ken
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Pics coming in about 2 minutes.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭


    << <i>Cameron put up or shut up! >>



    Time for someone else to shut up.

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    Cameron Kiefer
  • LouisCampLouisCamp Posts: 468 ✭✭✭
    I think the whole circular insert moves with the coin, right Cammie?

    Lou
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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    No, just the coin. The rubber insert doess come out when cracked but does not move when you tap it.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • ElectricEyeElectricEye Posts: 2,354


    << <i>I have done it with reeded edges and it works. I have palms of steel.

    Cameron Kiefer >>


  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Ok I just had to try it. I didn't have any crooked ones but I just made one crooked. Man that's a $2k coin I just turned to make cammy's silly point. I hate yall.


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    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I didn't think it would work either, but I just did it on a quarter! But instead of tapping it in my palm, I gave it some good raps on a new post-it-note pad. Four or five whacks and it rotated about 10 degrees. Flipped it around and rotated it back as well.

    Still, it is sad that PCGS can't get coins located in the holders correctly. I hope they don't say that they move in transit like the rattlers did.

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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭


    << <i>Man that's a $2k coin I just turned to make cammy's silly point. I hate yall >>



    Thanks. I posted my pics above also but did it on a $20 coin!image

    Cameron Kiefer
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Well I wasn't about to go beating one of my Sample Slabs on the porch so I had to use what I had just laying around.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Hahaha! Sample slabs are more special than a Morgan! Thats the way I feel also!

    Cameron Kiefer
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>Ok I just had to try it. I didn't have any crooked ones but I just made one crooked. Man that's a $2k coin I just turned to make cammy's silly point. I hate yall. >>



    Better check the current prices Dog, that's much more than a $2k coin right now.
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Now to get it back where it was.
    Round & round she goes
    where she stops
    the dog knows

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    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've tapped current-generation holders to straighten out errant coins.

    Like cameonut mentioned, you can tap it on a pad of post-it notes or a paperback book without worrying about cracking it.

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  • TheNumishTheNumish Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    Learn something new everyday. Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Well it took more than a pad of post it notes to turn mine. I had to knock it pretty hard on my concrete porch. Whole time I was thinking this is going to be an unintentional crackout.
    I did a slabbed JRob $5 last week but it only took rapping it on the tabletop to turn it back to proper rotation.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Cameron, put up or shut up! Post a pic of a PCGS slab right now with a reeded edge coin in it with a shot of the serial number. Then, in ten minutes, post another picture of the same serialed # slab with the coin rotated. If you can't, then move on!

    Ken >>



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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    I think Ken has moved on.

    Cameron Kiefer
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  • slideridersliderider Posts: 1,834
    Saw a PF70DCAM with an $800 BIN recently. (just to get the thread back on topic)
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  • thecointraderthecointrader Posts: 480 ✭✭
    Way to go, Cameron!

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  • eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Someone, send me a $2k coin....I wanna try it........image)
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>I think Ken has moved on. >>

    Not really, Cameron! Just had a family emergency last evening while posting to this! Son was admitted to the hospital. Turned out to be kidney stones!

    Thanks though for showing that it can be done!

    Ken
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    I hope your son is alright.image

    No problem. I won;t argue points in the coin forum if I am wrong. The open forum is another matterimage

    Cameron Kiefer
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>I hope your son is alright. >>

    I haven't heard anything yet today. They were talking possible surgery last evening to remove one they think is stuck!

    Ken

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