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Grade this coin...???

saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
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1909/8

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and it is not on my registry set, so you can't cheat!!image
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65
  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    66
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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd call the obverse a 65. I'll withhold a grade for the entire coin until I can see the entire coin. image


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  • BigGreekBigGreek Posts: 1,090 ✭
    I'm not expert (certainly not on saints) but I'll say MS-65 based
    on how clean it looks.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Interesting...it's at PCGS right now...I have seen dozens of these in ms64 (and have the best I saw) and they are crapola...I just bought this as a ms64 that I am 90% certain will be in a 65 holder in 2 days. The lustre is much more brilliant than my crappy dark photo. I have to lighten them up. The upgrade would be worth about $25K more!!!! It's such a gem....I'd be shocked if it didn't go on the first try. STAY TUNEDimage

    PS...thanks for the 66 100proof!! That would make the POP 2!!!
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Looking forward to the news.
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $25,000 for a one point upgrade.image Looks like a "no brainer" MS65. Please post the results.
  • SequiturSequitur Posts: 1,195
    Saint, where did you spot this 1909/8 -- coin show, teletrade auction, Fleebay (doubt the latter)? Nice pickup, it is so very difficult to find nice gold coins for reasonable money these days.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Dealer...I just couldn't believe the photo on their site, so I had them send it...I was astonished. It's better than the photo they had. If I ever felt great about an upgrade this is the one...setting myself up for a fall???image
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    JB: Looks 64 to me...one minute tick away from a 65.........
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>JB: Looks 64 to me...one minute tick away from a 65 >>

    Mike, my comments to follow are aimed at trying to help you and others in evaluating coins, from images and/or in person:

    While there might be other legitimate reasons that the coin in question does not grade MS65, a tick or two, of the size in the images provided, would not in themselves preclude a grade of MS65 or higher. These are large images and several small ticks/imperfections can be present on coins of this size, and the coins still grade MS65 or higher.
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Mark...you shall be correct in every way. This is my "eye" at stake...if I know anything about grading Saints.image
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  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    i liked it a lot !

    66 is my deal,i hope it makes it !

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gem BU!

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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    is this better????

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    I will know TODAY!! drum roll please............image
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    ms-65, outside chance at ms-66, but you only showed us 1/3 of the coin (no rev or edge) & i can't tell the luster.

    K S
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    It's in a slab, so you can forget about the edge...I only had the obv. downloaded, however it's very, very clean. Inasmuch as there have been MS66 votes, with a POP of ONE I would think it unlikely to break into that lofty hight.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lots of people are voting MS-65, but from the picture, I don't think that the coin has enough luster to make that grade. I'd say MS-64 from what I can see. If the coin really is brighter than it seems to be from the photo, maybe it is an MS-65.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Bill..the lustre is the most prominent aspect of the coin! When I first opened it, I thought I had the wrong coin, because this date rarely has any flash, so you'll have to excuse my photo. Somehow they lose a lot of quality when I upload them. Stay tuned!
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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    Looks like that pop 1/0 MS66 in the registry set is about to be a pop 2/0.
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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    Looks like a 65 for sure. But is that a horizontal hairline scratch that runs from Liberty's hip out thru the bottom of the torch and beyond?
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Good eye, bushmaster!! NO..it's on the holder. Man you are sharp...image
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
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    BETTER PICTURE!!
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  • coltguscoltgus Posts: 337 ✭
    I had a 9/8 MS63 PCGS I swore would 4 but it didn't. They grade real tough on Saints with a BIG upside. I think 64 again, and again, and ...
    Having said that it sure looks MS65.
    I'd rather be lucky than good.
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    coltgus...I got a 1909 ms65 go ms66...big jump! also a 1931 ms65 to ms66...bigger jump. There were others too!
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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    Definately a nice looking coin, but I counted 9 dings on the obverse in your large scan.

    I'm not sure all will be excused for a 65?

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  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭✭
    From the scan, it looks like a 65 to me, Jay.

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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    no dice. again in 2 months. they see invisible things!imageimage
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  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭
    You need to be prepared for a 64 on this one. Maybe a 65.
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