Poll: Will the Red Sox curse be over if they beat the Yankees to win the pennant but lose the World
Gemmy10
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P.S. Personally I don't believe in curses but I thought this would be fun.
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question "if the Sox beat the Stanks" is sure a good start.
That kind of talk would have been unheard of in past years.
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Collecting 1970-1979 PSA 9 & 10 Baseball Cards
The worst was in 1986 when they all but had the Series in the bag in the bottom of the tenth with the bases empty, two out, two strikes on the batter and a two run lead. What followed was the greatest choke in World Series history. That was solid proof that THE CURSE is real and will never end.
There was a seventh game, but anybody with half a brain knew that the Series was over. I didn’t even both to watch it because I knew what was going to happen, and I knew that it would upset me too much to watch it.
Last year I got really emotional during the seventh game of the AL play-offs. I knew what was going to happen when Dumbo Grady Little left Pedro in for too long. The handwriting was on the wall. Grady was playing out THE CURSE yet again. He got fired after that and deserved it. Every Sox Manager, who has guided the team close to a Championship from Joe McCarthy in the 1940s to Grady Little in the 2000s, has contributed to the teams failing. Red Sox managers take stupid pills before every big game.
Then after the A-Rod deal this spring, I washed my hands of baseball. That was the last straw for me. You can’t beat THE CURSE and an owner who has a great manager, general manager and infinite amounts of money.
It’s on films in space folks. Baseball sucks because the game is such that some teams like the New York Yankees, Atlanta and at various periods others like the Dodgers and Cardinals win most of the time. On the other end of scale those who root for the Cubs, White Sox, Phillies and more recently Tampa Bay get nothing. And to rub salt in the wounds, teams like the Florida Marlins win for a group of fans who could care less. Professional basebal is just no fun.
Give me pro football. There's a sport where everyone gets to shine after a while, if you are willing to hang in there. With baseball, you can't live long enough to see your favorite team win, unless you are a Yankee fan.
What was also more amazing is NBC (or CBS but I think it was NBC) gave the closing credits and said that the MVP of the Series was none other than Roger Clemens. Talk about a choke.
Wasn't it Bruce Hurst named MVP and not Clemens?
wpkoughan@yahoo.com
Collecting 1970-1979 PSA 9 & 10 Baseball Cards
The only ways to break the "curse" would be to eliminate the Yankees in the post season. Or, if the Yankees do not make the post season, the curse would be lifted if the Sox win the whole damn thing.
The Red Sox will break the curse this season.
Au Contrare, my friend, Au Contrare. After pulling off Varitek's mask (unfair advantage) A-Rod got the better of the confrontation. Varitek was out with a sprained wrist the next day as a result of the scuffle.
<<The Yankees have zero pitching, and will not win the east. >>
In the last 7 starts the Yankees have won 5 games and the starters have a combined ERA of 2.22. Lieber and Mussina are pitching very well and then there was El Duque.
<<The Red Sox will break the curse this season. >>
DREAM ON!!!!
I should know about jinxes. I root for one.
So instead of me getting with the program, why don't you go back and read my thread. BTW, I root for Philly teams so I am right there with you as far as your Cubbies are concerned.
The whole point is that they won WORLD SERIES several times prior to trading Ruth, and then NEVER won another one after trading him.
Therefore they MUST WIN A WS to end the curse!
Winning the pennant means NOTHING if they can't win the WS!!
<< <i>THE CURSE will not be broken until the Red Sox win the World Series. I have not bothered to go back and count it up, but the Red Sox have four or five World Series to the seventh game, and have lost them all.
The worst was in 1986 when they all but had the Series in the bag in the bottom of the tenth with the bases empty, two out, two strikes on the batter and a two run lead. What followed was the greatest choke in World Series history. That was solid proof that THE CURSE is real and will never end.
There was a seventh game, but anybody with half a brain knew that the Series was over. I didn’t even both to watch it because I knew what was going to happen, and I knew that it would upset me too much to watch it.
Last year I got really emotional during the seventh game of the AL play-offs. I knew what was going to happen when Dumbo Grady Little left Pedro in for too long. The handwriting was on the wall. Grady was playing out THE CURSE yet again. He got fired after that and deserved it. Every Sox Manager, who has guided the team close to a Championship from Joe McCarthy in the 1940s to Grady Little in the 2000s, has contributed to the teams failing. Red Sox managers take stupid pills before every big game.
Then after the A-Rod deal this spring, I washed my hands of baseball. That was the last straw for me. You can’t beat THE CURSE and an owner who has a great manager, general manager and infinite amounts of money.
It’s on films in space folks. Baseball sucks because the game is such that some teams like the New York Yankees, Atlanta and at various periods others like the Dodgers and Cardinals win most of the time. On the other end of scale those who root for the Cubs, White Sox, Phillies and more recently Tampa Bay get nothing. And to rub salt in the wounds, teams like the Florida Marlins win for a group of fans who could care less. Professional basebal is just no fun.
Give me pro football. There's a sport where everyone gets to shine after a while, if you are willing to hang in there. With baseball, you can't live long enough to see your favorite team win, unless you are a Yankee fan. >>
It sounds like the only way you will be happy is if YOUR team wins. Do the Yankees play by the rules of MLB, the same rules every other team plays by? YES. Other owners have money like Stein but they are not as smart with it. And any example about linking the money spent to an automatic WS title has routinely been proven to be false. If it were true then the Yanks, Cardinals, Giants, Dodgers, Cubs, or Red Sox would win the title every year!!! But that does not happen. Marlins, Angels, and D-Backs are the last 3 winners. So baseball is not as bad as you say (it has enjoyed it's best years of profit the last 5 years with this year on pace to break the yearly record). You are in a group with so many other people/fans, who will never be happy until YOUR team wins. Meanwhile you are jealous of every other city who has a winning team, like NY. Fair weather fan, I think that is the name for people like you.
<< <i>Fair weather fan, I think that is the name for people like you. >>
Bad rap, man. I followed the Red Sox for the 25 years, through thick and thin from 1978 to 2003. Before that I followed the Phillies from 1961 to the early 1980s. In 1961 the Phillies set an all time record when they lost 23 games in a row. In 1964 they blew the National League title in the last week of the season. Do you want to talk to me about being a loyal fan?
I know that that the Yankees dominated baseball from the time they got Ruth in the 1920s until the mid 1960s when CBS bought the franchise and ran it to the ground. Then they had big dry spell until the days of Reggie Jackson in the late 1970s which was followed by another dry spell, unitl Torre and Cashman came along.
I'd say you have a lot nerve throwing mud balls at people when your team the Yankees wins all the time. I wish I could plunk you in a time machine and send you back to the baseball seasons that ran from 1965 to the mid '70s when the Yankees were not very good. You also would not have liked the time when the Yankees were called the Highlanders and did not win any pennants from the early 1900s until they got Ruth in the early '20s. If you could happy during those periods, then maybe you are real fan. If not, then keep your mud balls to yourself.
BillJones, did Francona take one tonight?
Who said the Chokesox would catch the Yankees and win the division this year?
Red Sox (and Cubs fans, too) whine and moan about not winning a world series, like they are owed one or something. So your team has been around forever, and it's been nearly as long since you've won a championship? Big deal...there are lots of quality franchises out there who haven't won it all, just like there are lots of franchises who probably didn't have any business winning it, either.
I just don't get the mentality of a fan who says their team is cursed because they haven't won a world championship in X number of years...both teams have enjoyed deep playoff runs many, many times....and I am somehow supposed to have sympathy for them?