PO-01 Question... Will PCGS slab a no date coin...ie. 1917 Type 1 SLQ

Manorcourtman

I've been very intrigued with all the talk of PO-01 coins lately!! It seems like a fun pursuit! This leads to my question. Will PCGS grade a no date coin such as a 1917s Type 1 SLQ that cannot be mistaken for any other coin? I would guess that a no date coin would qualify as a PO-01....of course I could be wrong!! What do you "Poor" guys think? Chris

cosmicdebris

That could also be a 1916 couldn't it?

ziggy29

If there's no doubt about the date, I think they can. Given that this coin has an S mint mark, if you can tell it's a Type 1 SLQ it must be 1917. If the date was in question it can't be slabbed.

braddick

Yes, they will under the conditions you've described.
Congratulations on seeking out coins that are difficult to find, inexpensive once you do and bring a smile on your face when owned.

jdimmick

Actually,

I think they would have also being a P mint 1917. As you can determine if its a 16 or a 17 with out any evidence of the date.

jim

ss350camaro

<< <i>Congratulations on seeking out coins that are difficult to find, inexpensive once you do and bring a smile on your face when owned. >>



That's exactly why i purchased this one. $8 shipped to my door.

sliderider

A no date coin won't make Po01. The date doesn't have to be complete, but it must be distinguishable in some way.

airplanenut

<< <i>A no date coin won't make Po01. The date doesn't have to be complete, but it must be distinguishable in some way. >>

Not if the date can be garnered from a visable part of the design. For example, a chain cent with no obverse and just one reverse link will be graded PO-01--it's known to be from 1793 only.

A type 1 standing liberty, too, with a mintmark, is a 1-year type coin and could be slabbed dateless. Same with the 1913 T1 buffalo. There are quite a few coins that can be slabbed dateless.

Jeremy

Manorcourtman

A type 1 SLQ with a MM is no doubt a identifiable coin with no date. The 1917 Type 1 SLQ is the only "Bare Breast" coin with or w/o a date that can be identified w/o a date. `Thanks for everyone's input. Chris

Colorfulcoins

I've found the SLQ's to be a challange finding in a grade of less than AG03 (haven't tried very hard but have tried).....here's the type-1 and type-2 in my set - both are AG03. I'd be a strong buyer for an SLQ in PO01 ....type 1 or 2!

drsvenghali

Do you think this (1917 SLQ) would make PO-01 or at least FR-02?

drsvenghali

... if not, I can always keep it in my pocket a bit longer!!!

Prethen

Looks FR02 to me, but without something discerning it from 1916, they likely wouldn't slab it.

ms70

What's the difference between Philadelphia 1916 SLQs & 1917 T1 SLQs other than the date?

mirabela

There's something about the curls on the head that you can use to tell dateless 16's and 17's apart. Heritage had a dateless ANACS P01 1916 SLQ up a month or two back.

drsvenghali

The shape of the head and the shape of Liberty's gown at the bottom by her right foot. Different dies and therefore different die indicators that can be used to show it's a 1917. Believe me, I tried real hard to make this into a 1916.

drsvenghali

One vote for FR-02. Anyone else?

Colorfulcoins

Aghhhhh.......................I'll buy it! And yes, that coin would definitely grade lower than my AG03 - and based on the 1916 PO01 referenced above (here's the 1916 ANACS Poor-1 from a recent Heritage auction). Based on comparison, your coin has legit claims to a PO01 grade IMHO.