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F117ASRF117ASR Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭
edited November 22, 2020 12:39PM in U.S. Coin Forum
I just came back from my coin shop and I have just one thing to say. They hade about 5 free employees and none serviced me until 15 minutes later. Secondly, I asked to see some special mint sets and they got huffy when I asked if I could see more than one of them. As I am looking at them I see them staring at me. I'm pretty uncomfortable at this point and just about finished looking at their poor stock of SMS sets. Just to be nice I decided to buy one of those 50 state maps for my little brother and then looked at the silver maple leafs. I ask "how much for the unc. canadian silver maple leafs" and they say $18.95. Next I ask to see some mint sets from the 80's to maybe pick out one with a nice kennedy. This old lady tells me "We don't allow people to look at sets to pick out the nice ones". Well correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't I be allowed to pick the set I am paying for? I am the just a normal collector looking for something in particular. Isn't that what collector's do. Well, all i can say is that I hope their business gets screwed over by ebay and nice dealers. I guess I have to find a new shop. It's situations like these that make the hobby more frustrating than fun. Sorry to complain but I just feel like letting this out.
Beware of the flying monkeys!
Aerospace Structures Engineer

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  • << <i> Next I ask to see some mint sets from the 80's to maybe pick out one with a nice kennedy. This nasty old lady tells me "We don't allow people to look at sets to pick out the nice ones". Well correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't I be allowed to pick the set I am paying for? >>



    I agree! I've never understood dealers like that. If they don't have the time to search their own stock, then why should they criticize us for it. Aren't they just going to sell these sets at the same price to someone else without ever looking at the coins inside? The choice for them is either us leaving and buying no sets, or us staying and cherrypicking and maybe buying a few sets. They probably don't even have the knowledge or the determination to pick out the nice coins, anyway, so why won't they let us do it?
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    Wow! I don't know how long that coin shop has been in business, but if that's how they treat all their customers, they won't be in business much longer, IMHO.image
    I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have experienced the same thing. Some shops are more than willing to let you look through all of their inventory of proof sets, SMS sets, morgans (whatever series intersts you). Other shops refuse to let you look at more than the one or two items that the clerk picks out and hands to you. They are somehow insulted/offended that a potential customer would want to pick out the best piece/set.

    Perhaps they are lazy.

    Perhaps they do not like cherry pickers [however, they miss the point that if a cherry is found, the picker may well agree to pay more than the going rate for a run of the mill item just to get the cherry (I recently looked through a large # of proof sets at a shop for 45 minutes and finally found one set that I liked; a 1956 with a DCAM Type II Frankie; when I told the owner I wanted to buy he looked at the set, saw the DCAM Frankie and said $100.00, without blinking I paid the $100.00 which to me was worth it for the chance of picking up a 1956 DCAM Frankie that would grade at least 67)].

    Perhaps they are insecure and afraid to do a deal with a knowledgeable collector [who might Rip them].

    I say what are the coin shops in business for, if not to buy and sell coins. The shop owner and employees should at least make some effort to know their material. By doing so they will know what premium material they have and will be able to bargain effectively with a knowledgeable collector and actually make money in their business.

    For those shops that do not allow customers to look at all of the inventory in a series, I come back once or twice more to see if the pattern is the same. If so I leave quickly, never again to return.

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The last coin shop I was in I got the same response. I asked if they had some SMS sets and he said Yes, in the counter next to the door. I said great and do you have any more besides that one? He said I have several in the back but they aren't coming out here until that one sells! image I can't look at them? No, buy that one or go down the road!

    I went down the road! image

    Closest coin shop from me is over 90 miles, so I don't get to develop a relationship which I think would help and he is the store owner, if he wants me to go down the road that's what I will do. Next time I am in the city, I think I will go to one of his competitors and see what they say. image
    Ken
  • Some of these shops really don't want to be bothered with knowledgable collectors. They make thier money selling at 100%+ markup to Uncle Johnny who wants a proof set for his new nephew and the occasional little old lady who sells her jewelry or her husbands old gold coins for a song.
    Just move along
  • F117ASRF117ASR Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭
    Well, the good thing is that I live in L.A. so I have options. At least my little brother and sister had a blast filling that state quarters map.
    Beware of the flying monkeys!
    Aerospace Structures Engineer
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's really no excuse to leave you cooling your heels while they're not busy but you
    can't really blame them for not letting you look through their stock of mint and proof sets.
    I've spent many hours at this when the dealer will allow it and always pay a strong premium
    when I find sets I want, but look at it from his perspective. If you go through and pick out
    all the good sets then there's little left for the next guy and he'll soon tire of buying sets at
    that shop if there's nothing good in them.

    In recent years I've been complaining a lot more about things like this and have found there
    is often just a misunderstanding, so now I try to complain even before I get angry. It doesn't
    always work though.
    Tempus fugit.
  • Man, I just love reading these crappy coin shop stories. Always have. Thanksimage
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I kind of see your point, cladking, but it's silly to expect a collector to buy a pig in a poke. I can't see the logic in saying, in essence, "you can look at single coins as intensely as you'd like, but if there are multiple coins prepackaged at the Mint you have to settle for the luck of the draw."

    Perhaps a fair compromise is to tell collectors upfront that prices are 25% higher if they want to go through all the sets first.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • Based on my brief experience in this hobby, this is my opinion of the local coin shop business:

    Local coin shops exist to buy coins, not sell them. There's no way most coin shops could stay in business if all they did was sell coins to collectors. Do the math. You could maybe pay the rent. You certainly could not pay yourself and/or employees a salary. There's just not enough volume. Except in the largest metropolitan areas, there are not enough buyers to support a coin shop.

    Coin shops survive by buying a signficant amount of collector coins from people who have no interest in coins but who want to sell them quickly and easily. Not everyone wants to sell via eBay. I honestly don't know what happens next, but somehow the coin shop is able to turnover and quickly sell those coins to a wholesale buyer (I assume).

    IMO, this is the only way I can see how a coin shop can possibly survive. That is why most coin shops have rude employees/owners. They could care less about selling coins. If you're not walking in with a bucket load of coins to sell, then they don't want to be bothered.

    Fortunately I have a very helpful and knowledgeable coin shop nearby with a decent inventory. I honestly think the only reason he is so nice is because he is a geniunely nice person who enjoys the hobby.
    Bill
  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I honestly think the only reason he is so nice is because he is a geniunely nice person who enjoys the hobby. >>



    I do believe this would help. Are all coin shop employees coin collectors? image
    Ken
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Yep, sounds like a bad store. I wouldn't go back.
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I've experienced some of this same attitude when I've tried to look at a dealers' inventory of proof sets. I understand that someone may not want you to cherrypick all the best stuff, but then why have a large inventory out in the display case?? image
    At the last shop I went to, I picked out a 66 sms set, and had started to look at another item. The owner put the NICE set (that I had picked out) back into the display case, and pulled out a different set for me to take home! I almost didn't catch it, but I had to ask him "no, I wanted THAT set please". The ol' sms switch!! image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • as mentioned above ,coin shops buy coins or sets from collectors,dealers,uninterested parties and etc .if they pick and choose only the 'choice stuff' , there may be less offered next time . the shop buys 'everything' . then sells everything , including the less desirable items . if someone complains ,items are swapped. if not,the buyer gets 'stuck ' with lesser quality . nature of the business
    Home of quality widgets
  • IwogIwog Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭
    Almost all coin shop dealers have this attitude. They see coin collectors as a nusance and barely tolerate them. They exist for the big score; a large estate being liquidated by an indifferent executor who walks into the shop off the street and takes the bid no matter what it is. (because they don't know any better)
    "...reality has a well-known liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert
  • I don't see where you did anything wrong. I got some of the same treatment at the show in Pittsburgh from some dealers. I finally started circling the "Being Ignored By" dealers in the show program. These I won't do business with now. Especially when there were plenty of dealers willing to spend time talking to me. And I spent money with them.


    Jerry
  • This sounds exactly like the treatment I got in Sacramento, CA, at Excelsior Coin Gallery. Unbelievable. And the guy tending the shop even recognized me when I walked in. I asked to see their stock of Jefferson nickels and was told that I had to specify dates and grades, but that their stock was "otherwise unavailable." I left never to look back or visit their table at shows.

    (This, in the face of having bought a 1931-D Lincoln from them in "BU red" that came back from PCGS and NGC as AT, and also a "BU" 1939 DDO Jeff that cam back AU58. I complained to them but they said it was my tough luck. So it was, and I chalk it up to experience. However, they are fundamentally dishonest or ignorant with their grading, and lousy in their dealings with customers.)

    Hoot
    From this hour I ordain myself loos'd of limits and imaginary lines. - Whitman
  • IwogIwog Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭
    Yeah Excelsior is amazing, you specific a denomination and grade, and they return with a single coin for you to buy or not buy. I've bought a few supplies there but never a coin.

    To my knowlege, there isn't a decent coin shop in the greater Sacramento area. Just horror stories. There are two excellent dealers who are located here (one of them will grade coins for food), but I don't think they run a store.
    "...reality has a well-known liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert
  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    Show them how much you love them by never returning.
    Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
  • They are somehow insulted/offended that a potential customer would want to pick out the best piece/set.

    If you go through and pick out
    all the good sets then there's little left for the next guy


    So who IS the next guy - no more of a customer than you are .... what makes the 'next' customer any more special than you are. If they are holding something for someone with a want list or regular, then why put that one in the display case as if it were for sale.

    When you go to the product aisle in the grocery store, auto shopping, or whatever item you are buying, don't you do the same thing ........ ie. pick out the best one? the best bargain? the best find?

    That kind of attitude sucks and I would give them a piece of my mind - what's left of it anyway.




  • What part of "BITE ME" did they not understand ?
    I wouldnt go back either !
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  • When I was running coin shows, I had a dealer one time that had quite a lot of indian head cents in a box, priced all the same, take your pick. The price was real reasonable.
    Some guy came by and spent hours going thru them picking out just the very best.
    When he was finally done and had the coins set aside he wanted, he then tried to haggle with the seller about the price.
    The dealer just took the coins the fellow had set aside, and tossed them back in the box and put them in his case and told the guy they weren't for sale.

    Ray
  • Perhaps a fair compromise is to tell collectors upfront that prices are 25% higher if they want to go through all the sets first.

    can't really blame them for not letting you look through their stock of mint and proof sets

    What is the point of these comments??? So if you go to a car dealer and go through his inventory to pick out the "best one" of a certain model (as regards to looks, not options) then it is okay for him to charge you 25% more???!!!! They are SELLERS, you are the BUYER, you can pick whatever you want to buy without their input or interference. You are paying good money for a product, if the products are all priced equal, then you have the right to pick out the best one in your opinion. If they don't like it, they don't need to be in a retail business.

    F117ASR, you have a good reason for being pissed off, I would let them know what A**** they are, and make sure all my collecting friends know to avoid that store....it's called consumer pressure! Hope you find a better store close by. good luck!!!!
    "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on; I don't do these things to other people, I require the same from them."
  • F117ASRF117ASR Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Local coin shops exist to buy coins, not sell them. >>

    - SDCollector

    Interesting take. That seems entirely true in regards to this shop. The shop keeper has always blown me off when a potential seller came along. Nevertheless, a buyer can always be a seller as well. I may have been buying today but tomorrow I may sell. Now they have lost any chance of such a sale. I guess I will just wait for Long Beach. I missed it earlier this year but I can make it this fall. From what I have heard on this forum I definately don't want to miss such a big show.
    Beware of the flying monkeys!
    Aerospace Structures Engineer
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    at ANA I had a collector spend over an hour picking out 9 coins out of a 3 for a dollar box....after 1 hour taking up space and looking at every coin in the box.......he was so nice to hand me 1 dollar and said thats all these crappy coins are worth....I thanked him and put the crappy coins back in the box....see folks it happens both ways....image
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
  • Hey, it's a free country.

    I wouldn't do biz there either.

    Just take your custom elsewhere!
  • Yup, you got lousy service from that dealer. I only got treated like that once before. In all fairness, though, I was shopping in a rather upscale community and I am far from being their usual clientele. It was the kind of place where you walk in the front door, then have to wait for them to buzz you in through a second door, and has the same atmosphere as a museum. The man behind the counter was wearing a $1200 Armani suit with a red carnation pinned to the lapel. The guy looked at me in my tie dye, ripped jeans, and worn out sneakers like I was a piece of garbage. I started asking him about some things and he gave me a 'talk to the hand' attitude. Exchanged a few rather heated words with him then reached in my pocket and fanned out the $2500.00 in 50s and 100s that I'd been saving for months, just for this visit to this highly reputed shop, and told him I'd take my business to a dealer located in a neighborhood more befitting of a low class person like myself, then walked across the street to his competitor and got royal service. Some dealers just don't want new customers, I guess.
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  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭


    << <i>I live in L.A. >>



    So do I. Care to say which shop this is???

    BTW -- What I found is that if you give a little, you'll get much more in return. There's a neighborhood shop that I go to. At first, the owners were a little leary of me since I wasn't the typical collector looking for state quarters. After a while of browsing I noticed some Type II 1981 proofs in his case he had marked as Type Is. I taught the owner the differences and he appreciated my honesty instead of cherrypicking the coins. Since then whenever I go in I get to see his "hidden stash" that he only shows to certain people and often he'll cut me a deal on prices. He's even given me a couple of freebies -- one a Type II 81-S Lincoln for teaching him the differences.

    Michael

  • BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭✭
    It takes all kinds. I live in San Antonio. I have been to every coin shop in town that I know of. I did come across one with an attitude like that. Most of them are decent people that don't mind letting you look at whatever you want to look at.
  • When you really think about the economics of running a coin shop (not a dealer renting a table at a coin show) the revenue from actually selling coins must be very insignificant.

    Based on my experience, the majority of coins in a coin shop are in the $20 to $40 range. I rarely see more than a few coins over $300. And I rarely see more than one or two customers in the coin shops at one time. I usually spend about 30 minutes or so browsing and I always buy something. So based on my unscientific sample, I estimate that's about 10 to 20 customers a day.

    So 20 customers a day spending about $30 each on average is about $600 per day revenue, on average. Assuming a 50% margin on the coins sold, then that's income of $300 per day. That's probably less than a good handyman makes per day.

    And how many serious, regular coin collecting customers are there in most cities. I live in a city of about 3 million and I bet there's only one or maybe two hundred serious coin collectors. And last time I looked there were 10 coin shops listed in the yellow pages! And guess what all of their ads say...WE BUY COINS. There's not enough collectors for them to survive selling coins.

    Maybe my numbers are way off, but I think you can begin to see why coin shop owners dread seeing non-selling customers walk in the door.
    Bill
  • To all the Dealers. It's definitely a two way street and sure there are crappy customers. But the crappy customer stories on this thread involve a crappy customer pulling some sort of shenanigan. I had a dealer tell me this story in Pittsburgh. He had an unopenned box of P Keelboat nickels. When asked how much he wanted for it he said $135. The customer didn't want it for that price and the dealer had planned to open them anyway. So the customer picked out 5 rolls. Then the customer argued with the dealer that the rolls should only be $1.35 each since the unopenned box was for $135!!!! He left and didn't buy anything. That's definitely a Crappy Customer.

    As for Crappy Dealers, my first and foremost criteria for this category is being ignored. Especially at their table during a show. And I'm talking about being flat out ignored. I have no desire of ever doing business with them. I use the word "desire". The door isn't locked, but it sure is shut. I've also thought of the possibilty that some dealers are timid and uncomfortable no matter how many shows they've done. Unfortunately that still falls into the ignored category.


    Jerry
  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    Michael,

    What about the nickel(s) you pointed out in the album!image

    But even so, as a consumer there should be no reason to take that type of attitude.
    In the shop you talk about there is a corner where stamp collectors can sit for hours picking out the stamps they want from a box full.
    Why should it be any different for coin collectors?
    Just give us a table some mint or proof sets, leave us alone for a while & we'll be happy.
    I'm sure you have spent some hours going through those 2x2 & only finding a few you liked. Do you HAVE to score points first before you get that type of treatment?

    My worst experience was in a shop in Santa Barbara, no, not that guys shop, but another where the owner is in a small room behind the counter.
    You have to ask the 'counter girl(woman)' what you want to see, and usually 'high grade' or 'lo grade', graded or raw. So I ask to see some raw Liberty Dimes.
    I pick out 5 or 6 keys & semi-keys. About $450 worth of coins. After asking for a loop I noticed hairlines. I asked if the coins where cleaned. The counter woman took the coins to the owner, then came back. Yes, 3 of the coins where cleaned (not noted on the 2X2). I looked at the others, picked out the worse of the rest & asked the woman to ask the owner if he considered the hairlines to be slide marks. She said that the owner couldn't be bothered with constant questions.
    I told her that was too bad, turned around & walked out!
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  • F117ASR - Since I live near the LA area would you mind PM'ing me the name of this shop so I don't inadvertently interrupt them when i am looking for something to buy?

    Thanks
  • Well,my new job as an outside sales person for an auto parts company is little different !
    i went through my account list for 1 store today (i have 4) and found 40 customers that did biz with us and no longer do so !

    My goal next week is to visit all of those people and find out who pissed em off and regain the confidence they used to have in my company !
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  • << <i>Well,my new job as an outside sales person for an auto parts company is little different !
    i went through my account list for 1 store today (i have 4) and found 40 customers that did biz with us and no longer do so !

    My goal next week is to visit all of those people and find out who pissed em off and regain the confidence they used to have in my company ! >>



    That's why I said said my door isn't locked, but it sure is shut. If I'm cordially approached by one of the dealers I have no desire to do business with again, I may change my mind. But I will let them know what happened when I stopped by their table at a show. Especially when it's being ignored. I hate it. And I don't care if they don't know how I feel or not. I don't care if they know and don't care either.

    Jerry


  • A coin shop that wont let me see what i want to look at can KMA !
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  • As for the rudeness, there is no excuse for that. But I agree with them on their policy. If you want a proof set with a really nice Kennedy, then ask for one and expect to pay for it. Better yet, if you just want the Kennedy, ask for one and expect to pay for it. I'm sure they will be happy to locate one for you at market price.

    Most coin shops look at mint products like this as commodities for newbies and gift buyers. In their mind, one SMS is the same as every other SMS and they charge the same for each. Why should they let you and every other cherrypicker to paw through their stock looking for a steal at the standard price? Sure, when it's just you it seems like not big deal, but you don't realize you're the tenth person today.

    These sets are not like normal coins that can easily be inventoried, priced, and stored. Flat packs with nice coins tend to drift into lower-priced or wrong-date envelopes. The packaging gets ripped. The years get mixed together and mint sets end up with the proofs. I spent much more time keeping the stock neat than I ever did adding to it.

    Besides, why sould I let you waste my time looking for UDCAM gems when I know there are none there? image
  • ah coin shops! perhaps one of the last non-customer oriented, legacy type businesses around. Have I been ignored? yes. Have employees been short with me? yes. These old buzzards want to BUY BUY BUY! The store part is just a front. Customer service is not even in the cards for most coin shops, and it should be expected. One solution to the "shut door" effect comes from my own experiences with one particular coin shop...

    I used to visit the coin shop every saturday morning with my bud back in high school. If anyone was going to get the cold shoulder, it was us 16/17 year old punks. It took a while, but the owner finally warmed up to us. Instead of short exchanges and hesistant attitudes, the store owner struck up conversations...about coins, about us, about how school was going. Before I knew it, we had free reign on "the stuff in the back" and my bud and I would go thru coffee cans of coins to try and complete our whitman folders. He even set aside a couple 1921 P&D mercury dimes for the next week knowing that I would buy them the following saturday. The point is, befriend the coin shop guy, and the door will open.

    By the way, I just went back to that very shop after 6 years to sell some rolls of 40% kennedys...the owner, the guy we befriended so long ago, didn't want anything to do with me after the transaction was complete. You start from square one I guess!
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Many years ago I went through a dealers small stock of mint sets and had these
    and a few other modest purchases together on the counter waiting for him to add
    them up. When he approached he winked and said "what are you looking for, Ken-
    nedies?" I said, " No, clad quarters." He became beligerant and threw me out.

    I guess I shouldn't have used that four letter word.

    After this I always just told them I was looking for gems.
    Tempus fugit.
  • Been there done that too. My wife and I were out on one of our Saturday antique/flea market browsing days. We came across a small shop in a PA town and stopped in for a look around. We needed a few of the state quarters, which in these earlier years were pretty crappy. Our usual dealer would put a whole roll out and let us pick a nice one out. This guy, we asked for the state we needed and he hands me one. I asked if I could see several at once so I could pick out a nice one. He all but yelled at us giving me this rant about no your not going to go looking through all the state quarters and pick a nicer one out blah, blah, blah. Well he talked himself out of a customer. I said comm'on Kim lets go, this guy is not interested in gaining a regular customer, and we walked out. Crabby old fart. We strolled out and moved on down the street. A few seconds later he pops out of his store and looks at us as well strolled away, never to return again.

    In contrast, in my area finding a coin shop is like hunting hens teeth, we have very very very few shops, and they either stock nothing but junk, or only high end stuff and keep touting over priced slabs. I finally found a shop not too far away that was referred to me. We stopped in two weeks ago, and were pleasantly suprised. It was a well lit shop, no smoke haze or smell of smoke, it was well stocked, and the prop was more than courteous. My kind of shop. I picked up a 1997 S Silver proof Kennedy out of his extensive selection, as well as a goregeous accented hair. I then asked about a "nice" 1970D half. He showed me 3 in flips. They were typical, pretty well beat up from the minting process. When I mentioned this he said well here check these. He handed me about 12 1970 Mint sets. I searched them all, and still did not find one that struck me as good enough. He said hold on. Went in the back room, and produced another 6 sets. I searched through these and found one really nice sample which I purchased. Now thats service. He has a customer for life.

    Anyone need 1970 Mint Set coins sealed in the cello other than the half.... I'm sellin.... image

  • And you know, I also have to say, to those posting about not being allowed to cherrypick, YOU ARE IN A COIN DEALERS SHOP!!!! Coin dealers are the undisputed kings of the cherrypickers! Do you not think that if there was anything worth cherrypicking the dealer would have it slabbed already? If it was me, I wouldn't let any PF69DCAMS sit in the original mint holders for very long.
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  • but then why have a large inventory out in the display case??

    The last coin shop I went to, had all empty cases. Nothing out on display at all.
    You had to ask specifically for what you wanted to look at.
    Then they would lock the front door, and carefully open the safe, remove a tray, and lock the safe
    and bring the tray out for you to look at. The good stuff was by appointment only though.

    I remember going to a coin show a while back, and stopped at a table where the dealer had a bunch of worn down Morgans that caught my eye.
    I found three that look like they'd be slabbable and good candidates for maybe a PO2 or PO1 too, worst case maybe Fair.
    The dealer had to look at them for several minutes before he sold them to me. He never did ask what the heck I wanted them for.
    But he sure did look sort of befuddled as to what the heck I was seeing in them to want them.
    He even gave me a discount as he didn't want to have to deal with change.
    I think it pays to be more patient and try to ignore the impatience that sometimes happens.
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  • KMA???

    is that Kancel My Account??
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And you know, I also have to say, to those posting about not being allowed to cherrypick, YOU ARE IN A COIN DEALERS SHOP!!!! Coin dealers are the undisputed kings of the cherrypickers! Do you not think that if there was anything worth cherrypicking the dealer would have it slabbed already? If it was me, I wouldn't let any PF69DCAMS sit in the original mint holders for very long. >>



    You would be surprised. I doubt if it even pays to slab PF69DCAMs any more, unless you're submitting huge bulk orders.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sliderider, in general you may be correct in your statement.

    However, I have found many shops/dealers where they, for whatever reason, view all proofs sets from the mid 1950's forward and all SMS sets to be the same. Even if they know of cameo examples of these coins, they have no interest in them. They view these sets as a fungible commodity and sell them for between bid (plus a small percentage) to retail.

    Those shops/dealers who do not mind customers inspecting their inventory of these sets will be rewarded with repeat business and customers that will pay premiums for the gems that they find. Those who, for what ever reason, do not allow customers to inspect their inventory are simply missing out on a chance to obtain a loyal, repeat customer.

    Various points of view have been expressed in this thread, both pro and con, on shops/delears who do not allow customers to inspect inventory. Both sides of the issue have good points, however since I am a collector, my point of view is that set forth in my previous post to this thread.
  • I don't see where you did anything wrong. I got some of the same treatment at the show in Pittsburgh from some dealers

    That's pretty much what I did in Pittsburgh too. I wonder if they know how much business they lose when I drop my money at the table next to them? Do they care?

    Edited to add the right quote, as follows:

    I finally started circling the "Being Ignored By" dealers in the show program. These I won't do business with now. Especially when there were plenty of dealers willing to spend time talking to me. And I spent money with them.
    Rufus T. Firefly: How would you like a job in the mint?

    Chicolini: Mint? No, no, I no like a mint. Uh - what other flavor you got?



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