New Half Dime - Think I got nailed on this one...

Cladiator

Picked this 1831 off of eBay a week or so ago. The pics in the auction looked good but when I got it in hand I noticed a "dent" in the cap going vertical up to the denticles. Any opinions on the coin and the damage is greatly appreciated. Without the damage I'm thinking it would grade high VF. Also, can you help me attribute?

Catch22

The ding isn't particularly distracting, however it will keep it from holdering from NGC and PCGS. ANACS would holder it with remarks and knock it down one grade. Otherwise, the coin looks original and would look fine in an album. VF details net F-15. If you bought it around F-VF price you didn't get hurt much and the coin really does look pretty nice at first glance.

This is a really good example of the type of stuff often offered on ebay without accurate descriptions. No super rip off, but you can bet the seller knew about the ding and didn't say anything. I'm a big fan of ebay and buy and sell quite a bit, but this is an all too common type of rip.

BillJones

It depends upon what you paid for it. The dent is pretty old, and it is well hidden. However the coin can only net grade at best with ANACS.

I agree with the previous poster's grades.

coynclecter

If you bought a coin on ebay without a return policy then I would "attribute" that to poor judgement.

I just returned a GEM Fractional where the seller failed to mention the hole in it.

Cladiator

I bought it on the bay for VF money. I'm not new to ebay and am extremely aware of the pitfals involved with ebay buying. This is, however, the first time I was burned on a raw Half Dime....oh well. Again...I don't have the book can anyone help me with attribution?

lordmarcovan

I wouldn't call that one's details "a high VF"- more like a borderline VF. That being said, and despite the problem, it isn't a bad looking coin.

Conder101

Attribution is LM-6 It's a rarity one. Obv die was also later used on LM-7, another common variety. Rev was later used on 1832 LM-6, 1833 LM-5, LM-10, and 1835 LM-1. That reverse die was a real workhorse.

LUCKOFTHEIRISH

Looks like more of a lamination error to me! It may just be a VF. They should not knock the grade down for a lamination error.

kryptonitecomics

Condor, what book are you using to attribute the coin????


Does it include the seated Half Dimes as well???

Thanks


P.S. Did you ever get my e-mail, because you never responded

Conder101

Federal Half Dimes 1792 -1837

No it does not include the seated half dimes. For those you need either Valentine or Blythe's Seated Half Dimes 1837 to 1873. I've heard there is another book in the works on the seated but I don't know any specifics.

E-mail or PM? And when did you send it? I don't see anything in either of my email accounts from you unless you are using a different name or unless you sent it after 9 PM on the 22nd. I haven't downloaded one of my email accounts since then.

coinguy89

Cladiator, one of my half dimes has that same problem, I don't worry about it too much. I don't plan on selling my collection or getting it slabbed and it looks nice to me so I really wounldn't even care about the damage, its a really nice coin. If you like it, then you got a good deal if not, try to sell it or keep it for its marriage. I don't know what it is, because like you I haven't been able to get the Logan and McCloskey book yet.

Conder101

LuckoftheIrish, definitely not a lamination. You can see where part of the cap has been pushed out into the field higher than the cap goes, and there is a definite scrape in the field that ends in a pushed ridge by the denticals .

JrGMan2004

Nice lookin coin... a beautiful VF20/25

Cladiator

George-

I'd love to hear your opinion on the "dent" on the obverse?

sliderider

Well, if you didn't pay any big premium over F-VF prices, you're still ok. Did the seller offer a return policy? If it bothers you to the point of thinking you were ripped off, I'd try returning it.

dorkkarl

why would you complain about a NORMAL circulation mark on a 170 year old coin that's in lower grade??? makes no sense. if you want a coin w/out character, pony up the 1000 bucks for a ms-64 slabed coin (where you still could find dings)

otherwise, be GLAD that you now own a gorgeous, ORIGINAL coin that has its history AND CHARACTER intact.

K S

Cladiator

dorkkarl

I don't need a lecture on coins with character, just look at the two half dimes in my sig line. However, since my goal is to ultimately have my most characteristic set of half dimes slabbed I won't be holding on to this one. So...off to the B/S/T forum it goes.

coynclecter

<< <i>Any opinions on the coin and the damage is greatly appreciated >>





<< <i>I don't need a lecture on coins with character >>




When you post it usually means you're looking for responses, you shouldn't get upset when you get them.

Cladiator

Not upset and I am looking for opinions on the coin not on how I should be collecting coins. To be particular I did say I was looking for opinions of the actual coin and its damage not a collection strategy.

dorkkarl

sorry to say it, but slabing half dimes in f/vf, or even xf, just does NOT make sense. i don't see how having an eensie weensie little coin stuck in a monstrous sized holder (by comparison) can possibly add to your enjoyment of ..... THE COIN.

K S

Cladiator

Then we will agree to dissagree on that point. I like my coins in slabs for many reasons; authentication, protection from damage, a big slab is harder to "missplace" than a tiny coin raw, confirmation of my grade opinion and lastly I like to display my coin sets in Eagle slab pages. So, it makes perfect sense to me.

Edited to add: dorkkarl

SDCollector

Too bad I already have that hole filled in my type set. I'd buy that coin in a minute. I think it's very attractive. Guess that's what makes this hobby interesting.

dorkkarl

<< <i>I like my coins in slabs for many reasons; authentication, protection from damage, a big slab is harder to "missplace" than a tiny coin raw >>

to each his own, but if you can't authenticate a turban half-dime w/ the lm book in-hand, you should not be collecting half-dimes! as far as damage, such a tiny coin is not prone to damage, & i have NEVER EVER lost 1.

but like i said, to each his own. just keep in mind that your gonna spend literally 1000's slabing them - imagine how many coins you could buy for the cost of all that plastic.

K S