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I won my Heritage auction! or Boy did I take it in the shorts for this coin!

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Had Mark Feld check this one out for me while he was @ the ANA. He actually said the coin was beautiful. So I threw up a bid and won. Hard to tell from these lousy pics how nice the coin really is though. I can't wait to see it in person.

It's an upgrade in color and grade so I couldn't let it pass by. My thanks to Mark!

Thanks
Michael

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it should be a real winner... and Mark's eye isn't too bad image
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not my idea of pretty toning, but coin looks to have clean surfaces and a nice strike... and if Mark likes it I'm pretty much certain it will turn out to be a nice piece.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    If I know Heritage's pictures this coin will be very nice
    in color for a Peace Dollar......let us know Michael.
    Steve

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345


    << <i>If I know Heritage's pictures this coin will be very nice
    in color for a Peace Dollar......let us know Michael. >>


    Exactly how I feel, Steve. It actually even looks pretty nice on this scan. And you had Mark view it for you in person, how can you go wrong?image
  • Congrats on the winning bid! image
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Michael,

    I think you may have taken it in the shorts but in a very good way.image When it arrives it will feel soooooo gooooooodimage
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    I'm willing to bet this coin has tremendous color. I don't understand why Heritage doesn't do a better job with toned coins.

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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    That reverse looks like a real pretty blue color. Nice
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  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm willing to bet this coin has tremendous color. I don't understand why Heritage doesn't do a better job with toned coins. >>



    They are lousy to be sure. In their defense I can say I know personally that it is VERY diffcult to get a good picture from a coin in an NGC slab. The white makes it difficult to light the coin. It's like taking a picture of someone with a very bright background. The person looks to be in shadow in the subsequent picture.

    With all the coins they auction it would seem to be a very difficult job to photo correctly ALL the lots.

    Nice coin Fratt...congrads. Fratt can now send me his coin so I can take a better picture. image

    jom
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>They are lousy to be sure. In their defense I can say I know personally that it is VERY diffcult to get a good picture from a coin in an NGC slab. The white makes it difficult to light the coin. It's like taking a picture of someone with a very bright background. The person looks to be in shadow in the subsequent picture. >>



    That's interesting. With my setup, I have an easier time getting colors to show with NGC holders. I've had some real trouble with PCGS coins. Could be the camera or the lighting.
  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's interesting. With my setup, I have an easier time getting colors to show with NGC holders. I've had some real trouble with PCGS coins. Could be the camera or the lighting. >>



    In MY case, it is my ignorance of my camera. I've been doing some reading lately so when I get more time (or I buy a new coin that's slabbed NGC) I'm going to do some experiments. Ain't digital nice? image

    As to your PCGS coins maybe use a black cloth behind the slab. It helps...I wish I could do that with my NGC slabs.

    My guess is that since Heritage handles so many coins they don't take the time needed to make good shots....all the time.

    jom
  • Wow....I like the obverse.....looks like you got your hands on a nice one........as other have noted, please post better scans once you receive the coin. image
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    I do know that I have to increase the exposure with NGC slabs. I've tried various backgrounds with PCGS slabs, but nothing seems to really work. Eventually I do get decent shots, but with a lot more work.
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
    Thanks for all the comments. I'm very anxious to see this coin in person. Mark usually hates my toned Peace $, so if he thought it was nice I figured it had to be.

    If Heritage could get their images right I'm sure they could be getting a lot more bids through Ebay or their own site. I am really surprised an auction house of their size can't do a better job. There are at least a dozen forum members that could do this for them and increase their bids/profits significantly. It just makes more sense to provide accurate pictures.

    Now -- Superior on the other hand I think is doctoring their photos a bit. When I look at their auction lots in person I have to wonder who's doing their photography/editing work since rarely is the coin as vibrant as the pic.

    There has to be a middle ground to this.

    Anyway, once I get it back I'll take a couple of pics myself and post them with the Heritage pics to show the differences. But it really does pay to have someone look at the coin for you especially if you're going to bid strongly on it.

    Michael
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Newspaper Toned."
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭


    << <i>"Newspaper Toned." >>



    Are you referring to that toned Peace $ you own???????

    Give it up already and move on.

    Michael
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>Now -- Superior on the other hand I think is doctoring their photos a bit. When I look at their auction lots in person I have to wonder who's doing their photography/editing work since rarely is the coin as vibrant as the pic. >>



    I totally agree with you, there is some pretty serious image manipulation going on with Superior images. Of course, Superior is now what used to be TAGZ, and for those of you who are familiar with TAGZ it shouldn't come as a surprise.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jom,

    Once the coins are large enough, PCGS/NGC/ANACS really have the same difficulty/ease for photography. Make sure you're metering the light on the coin, and not the entire image, which factors in the slab. NGC slabs are really hard for the little coins, because they cast a shadow when the coin is recessed, making me like PCGS more for those image

    Jeremy
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  • Nice coin FrattLaw, congrats on the winning bid! image
  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Frattlaw

    It looks like a wonderful coin even given the not too wonderful photograph. But my local dealer would say "too dark, everyone what's bright coins". Ba, humbug.
    The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    Jeremy
    I trust Mark's eye for coins!
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
    I have a feeling (I hope) it may look like this one ---

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    If so, I'll be very pleased.

    Michael
  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Make sure you're metering the light on the coin, and not the entire image, which factors in the slab. >>



    Like I said, I need to get to know how my camera works a bit better. I haven't had much time but I plan on some test shots soon.

    jom
  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    Looks good to my eye. Very attractive, both sides.
    I brake for ear bars.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Michael: Congratulations on a very pretty toned Peace Dollar. We'd love to see improved photos of ther when you get an opportunity to have some taken.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • Nice coin Frattlaw.image

    I won a gorgeous little Walker in the Heritage sale myself.... But since the pictures suck I will post it when I have a better one.image
  • That's a nice Peace $ Fratt. I'm sure you'll be pleased. image
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