For all who think ANACS is a good grading firm

loanshark

In my hurry to complete my Morgan set I purchased a few semi-keys in "other" slabs with the intent to re-certify them in NGC holders to more match my set.

I sent in 2 ANACS slabs and one NTC to cross over in NGC slabs. My big worry was the NTC not getting crossed. Much to my surprise the ANACS slabs came back stating they could not cross at the same grade due to "wear". The NTC slab is now in a NGC slab.

Glad I didn't crack them out first.

Loan Shark

ss350camaro

Were the ANACS slabs 'net graded' ?

Peaceman

Yes. Good people.

loanshark

No, the slabs were not net graded

Loan Shark.

Manorcourtman

My ANACS Morgans have crossed 2 out of 2 times.....

ziggy29

How about posting pictures and letting us see what we think?

wam98

I've seen a lot of overgraded ANACS Morgans also IMHO. Even in the net grades too.

Russ

I've done a couple dozen ANACS that are now in PCGS holders all at the same grade or a point higher.

Russ, NCNE

loanshark

Don't know how to post pictures. That's the wifes job and she is not here. All three of the slabs were XF-40. I can maybe see why one didn't cross but not the other one. Looks like a mirror image of the NTC coin.

Loan Shark

darktone

ANACS is a great grading firm- all the good grading services have a few coins that are under/overgraded. For all we know NGC is the one that made the mistake? I guess in the ends it up you to decide. In the future just buy an NGC graded coin and be done with it unless of course you are buying ANACS coins cheap in hopes of crossing at the same grade or better to make a profit- then I would consider you a crackout artist and not a very good one. mike

K6AZ

If you want to send the pictures to me, I'll post them for you.

k6az@k6az.com

coinkat

ANACS is decent... they make mistakes just like everyone else...

loanshark

Not good enough on grading with Ebay pictures to be a crackout artist. Just want to complete the set. One of the coins came from David Lawrence.

Loan Shark

Poppy

I have very little luck with the coin in the plastic. I crack them out to submit. Much better results.

airplanenut

Loanshark,

From personal experience, it can be much more difficult to see a coin in a slab than raw. If the coin is close on a crossover, it likely won't cross, as the service then has to deal with, for example, a possible rim problem obscured by the holder. While there may be no bias of who's slab is being crossed, remember that the new company is responsible for the coin with their guaranty... that makes it harder to cross, rather than to crack and cross.

Jeremy

loanshark

Thanks for all the good advice. I will try to remember all this next time I send cross overs in. I just hate that I might send one in and get a no grade.

Loan Shark

keets

In my hurry

hey Loan Shark

all the grading companies undergrade, overgrade and hit the bullseye. it's up to us to pick out the first and last while trying to avoid the middle. perhaps in your hurry to complete the set you missed something.

al h.

anablep

<< <i>In my hurry to complete my Morgan set >>



I think this says it right here. Sometimes patience pays off. I wouldn't blame a slabbing company for your anxiousness (is that a word?). It can happen to anyone with any company. Don't sweat it.

BTW I happen to like ANACS a lot. I think luster counts big time in their grades on MS Morgans. I like luster!

dorkkarl

yep, you've proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that anacs is crap, because by golly, you found 2 whole examples out of 100s of 1000s where somebody had a different OPINION than them.

proof like that is about as definitive as it gets, ain't it.

sheesh.

K S

Dukie101

ANACS is a great grading firm- all the good grading services have a few coins that are under/overgraded. For all we know NGC is the one that made the mistake? I guess in the ends it up you to decide. In the future just buy an NGC graded coin and be done with it unless of course you are buying ANACS coins cheap in hopes of crossing at the same grade or better to make a profit- then I would consider you a crackout artist and not a very good one.

DRUNNER

I posted about 10 days ago on a related thread . . .

Lincolns . .

1909-S VDB was ANACS 64 RD, now PCGS 64 RD
1914-D was ANACS VF35, now PCGS XF40
1922 (St. Rev.) was ANACS VF35, now PCGS XF40

Admittedly . . they were older ANACS slabs.

DRUNNER

rlawsha

I crossed one ANACS coin to PCGS. It was a Morgan that was in a MS66 ANACS holder. It crossed to a MS66 PCGS holder. When you buy a slabbed coin, don't forget to actually look at the coin. It pays to learn a series and know what grade it is without looking at the holder. At least come close anyway.

BillJones

Your complaint gets back to the fact that you need to know how to grade coins in order to buy coins with the idea of not getting ripped off. The alternative is to buy from honest dealers who know how to grade coins who will guide you toward the right pieces.

I’m not surprised that you purchased ANACS slabs that NGC would not cross. But I can tell you that I have seen PCGS slabs, which were inaccurately graded, that NGC would not have crossed over. ANACS is not alone in this.

None of the services are perfect when it comes to grading. That’s just a fact of life.

bushmaster8

What dorkkarl said!

ziggy29

<< <i>I’m not surprised that you purchased ANACS slabs that NGC would not cross. But I can tell you that I have seen PCGS slabs, which were inaccurately graded, that NGC would not have crossed over. ANACS is not alone in this. >>

I agree completely. And the other thing is, most of the "clunkers" that won't cross remain in NGC or ANACS plastic because the properly graded ones get crossed over to PCGS. Not many people take properly graded PCGS coins and cross them to NGC or ANACS. This skews the perception the marketplace has of the grading services, and makes PCGS look much more conservative relative to the other services than they really are.

I've generally not seen much more overgraded ANACS junk than with PCGS or NGC.

goose3

how's this for PCGS?

paigowjohnny

Man I hate to get into this argument. My personal observation from only a small sampling...

1. ANACS is a great company that doesn't get the overall respect it arguably deserves.
2. ANACS is pretty good on MS Morgans
3. ANACS may be a bit liberal at times on VF and EF Morgans compared to PCGS or NGC. Not to imply that ANACS is necessarily wrong ( I think they grade pretty close to the ANA standard). You gotta weigh the merit of the coin yourself.

jom

<< <i>Not many people take properly graded PCGS coins and cross them to NGC or ANACS. This skews the perception the marketplace has of the grading services, >>



Exactly. The old "snow ball" effect where once there is the perception that somehow PCGS is stricter (not necessarily better) then the PCGS graded coin can bring more money. Once that is in effect all the correctly graded ANACS (and sometimes NGC) coins get reslabbed at PCGS. This leaves much of the overgraded coins in the ANACS slab which gives them the bad reputation...which in turn lowers the value of their coins relative to PCGS and the cycle continues.

I'd also like to point out the "best" grading service isn't the one who grades on a more strict scale, it is the one that is MOST CONSISTANT with whatever scale they use.

jom

Shamika

JOM couldn't have said it better. The exact same statistics can be used to justify almost any opinion.