Is this confederate note real?? Either way, what is the value?

mnmcoin

Obverse

Reverse

Thanks for any info.

morris <><

coinguy89

Look for the word "copy" printed on there, if it isn't than I would think it would be real, but don't take my advice, just look for "copy", it will be real small too.

LanLord

I don't know, but that looks an awful lot like the fake notes I used to buy at Farrell's Ice cream parlour

ziggy29

Looks a lot like this one -- which is a copy.

Russ

Looks like the word "copy" has been bleached out from above the word "comptroller".

Russ, NCNE

eddieal

I have a couple of $ Alabama CSA notes that are selling for about $25 each. The one dollar issue has no printing on reverse. I know mine is real as I found folded in corner of my ggggrandfathers billfold. He died in 1898.

earlwbollinger

It's a copy.
There are so many millions of various types of these floating around it's almost embarrasing.
They use heavy, artificially aged, cloth based paper, usually, to make them look and feel authentic.
Museums, souviner shops, toy stores, all seem to sell these.
Usually you can get a small pack of several different denominations for a few bucks at a museum or tourist stop.

The real Alabama currency is worth something. About the easiest way to tell is to carefully examine the signatures on the bill, they are
always hand signed (not stamped or machine signed) using a different ink from the rest of the bill.
The real ones are worth $100 to $600, the fakes maybe 99 cents.
Of course some of the contemporary counterfeits have a collector interest oo, maybe $200 or so for them.

Link to some for sale
Get a set here
Quick reference guide to currency

JadeRareCoin

Agreed. It's a modern reproduction.

Edited to say: value is $1 or less (as a novelty)

dorkkarl

fake. there's a simple giveaway that's about 90% accurate.

K S

CoinHunter2003

I'm with Curtis. I own several Alabama notes and none have a printed back.
The paper also doesn't look right on this one.

mnmcoin

<< <i>fake. there's a simple giveaway that's about 90% accurate.

K S >>



What is the simple giveaway?

morris <><

ps, thanks for all the info

mgoodm3

Same serial number as the one one Ebay. I have a fake confederate note given to me by my grandmother. I don't know if she bought it as real or not.

au58

It's not real.
On most reproductions, the easiest way to tell is the signatures. If the signatures are the same color as the rest of the printing, chances are good that it's a repro. If the signatures look like they would on a xerox copy, chances are good it's a repro. Signatures should show evidence of being added, or be of a different color (perhaps slightly), or show irregularities associated with an original signature.

earlwbollinger

I do agree it's a fake for sure.
The auction on ebay has the same serial number as the one your showing above.
Thanks for noticing, I should have noticed that myself too.

MSD61

This is a copy of parchment paper currency which was circulating aroung the country about 1961. These were sold in sets A-D. This little note comes from set "B" $100 State of Alabama 1864 - 834-F. There are many Confederate fakes, facsimiles, copies, and reproductions that exist. The Confederate Treasury Company alone offers a complete album of seventy-one Confederate reproductions in one fell swoop.

Unfortunately, many Confederate facsimile notes do not comply with the Hobby Protection Act, many of them having been printed in the 1950s and 1960s. Others modern notes don't comply because, well, who cares? The Federal Trade Commission is in charge of inforcing the Hobby Protection Act, and let's face it, they have bigger fish to fry. Besides, to add insult to injury, Confederate currency is considered to be foreign currency!

Perhaps the worst offenders are the "parchment" paper copies printed by the Historical Document Company of Philadelphia. They have been around since at least the early 1960s. There are 12 different sets including Confederate currency, state currency, Union currency, and Colonial currency. Perhaps the most infamous are the notes at the left, the 1864 $500 Jackson #16760 and the 1861 $1000 John C. Calhoun/ Andrew Jackson #297.

There is no reason to believe that any American currencies was ever printed on parchment paper, so will someone explain to me why there is so much of this stuff being sold on the Internet, some for good money? If it is made from parchment paper, it is a fake!
Whitman Publishing started printing a set of six Confederate notes around 1960. The company went out of business in the 1980s. However, I have seen other examples of Whitman money that were definitely not issued by them. The backs of these notes are bogus and unique.

Bogus and unique also describes the backs of the TOPPS Chewing Gum notes first issued around 1960, and later in 1964 by A&BC Chewing Gum Ltd. of England. There are 17 in this series. These notes measure only 2.5 inches by 5.5 inches, a bit smaller than a modern US dollar.
Cheerios Premium money was issued in 1954. For 25 cents and a Cheerios box top you received nine notes and an album. Cheerios is probably the best of all the older reproductions. Cheerios claims to have issued more Confederate currency then the Confederacy. I suppose the same could be said for the Historical Document Company.

Remember, if it's parchment paper it's not real. Okay I'm done now.

dorkkarl

hint: check out how the note is folded.

K S

JadeRareCoin

I remember getting these in Wonder Bread back in the 1970's. Now I get a couple of calls per month from people wanting to sell them.

BillJones

It's junk.

You can tell because it was printed on crappy aged parchment paper that is used for all of these reproductions. They have been selling this stuff for years, and you see it quite frequently in accumulations that are held mostly by non-collectors.

coppercoins

The signatures and serial numbers were hand written onto the original notes...the first dead giveaway is that the fake notes have printed signatures. Let alone the crappy printing and wrong kind of paper. The paper used for the original notes was very thin, like rice paper. The printing was usually of pretty high quality. This one is definitely fake - no question about it.