Crazy window ledge experiment Poll.... AT or not?

tsacch

I got bored with my searching rolls of new nickels one day about three months ago, so i put a roll in the original bank wrapper on the window ledge...facing south, direct sunlight........heres what some look like now. Spotted but toned really cool....I am wonderng if acetone will take off the organic material and give me a nice result.
More to come.

ps, not for sale as I consider them AT....just incase you were wondering. You think they are AT?

tom.

Bikingnut

I have a 2003 Silver eagle laying on my bedroom window sill. It's been there about 8 months now and has turned a nice light brown color. Next time I take pics, I'll take one of that coin also.

tsacch

I think these have nice color but the spots are what catch my eye.............I think I have acetone in the garage...........time to experiment.
tom

kamehameha00

<< <i>I have a 2003 Silver eagle laying on my bedroom window sill. It's been there about 8 months now and has turned a nive light brown color. Next time i take pics, I'll take one of that coin also. >>



I did the same with a 2001 Silver Eagle. It has turned light gold and brown after only a month.

byergo

Sorry, but with the significant spotting, there would be no market for these nicks.

tsacch

I am not looking to "market" these.............as I said........they are not for sale in the original thread...........just wondering what the good people of this board thougth about 'em..........AT or NT.

I am not a pci or acg or newmistrust slab maker...........so rest assured you will never see them on the market from me.

tom

Baley

I wouldn't call it "toning" so much as "environmental damage".

K6AZ

I agree with Baley. I voted for AT since there was no option for ED.

tsacch

oak pollen is my best guess, as i live in the woods surrounded by mighty oak trees.........the skanky spots came first then the colorful tone.

tom

K6AZ

There are woods in NJ?

tsacch

Leedspoint baby.........home of the New Jersey Devil...........2.5 acres of prime cul de sac........lol

tsacch

Maybe I can take a soft brass brush to them and get rid of the nasty spots?

K6AZ

It's kind of funny, when I think of NJ the first things that come to mind are Newark, Elizabeth City and Jersey City. When my company sent me up there, it was usually to one of those cities. I did go to some places along 287, and there are some nice areas in the northwest part of the state. For some reason, I can't get Jersey City out of my head. Maybe because the last time I was there, I heard gunshots in broad daylight.

BillJones

It looks like a corroded mess to me. About the only chance that a coin has when it is exposed to the elements is if it ends up buried in the ground and survives the experience. If it stays on top of the ground, the coin is almost always stone cold dead from a numismatic perspective.

tsacch

Southern NJ should be a seperate state...........its nothing like the north.

LindeDad

Stick them in your pocket and use them to pay the tax on a real purchase. Sure don't belong in anthing involved with collecting.

ziggy29

Toning is a strange thing to define. In principle, I believe AT is *any* toning which was deliberately applied to the coin. Obviously, no one is going to call 50 years in an old Wayte Raymond album -- even if the intent was to tone the coin -- "artificial toning" in the general case. But the problem is that we can't judge intent by looking at the coin.

I'd call this AT because it's clearly not a natural looking thing (as others have mentioned, there is environmental damage), though it's certainly not in the same league as baking your coins at 450 degrees for a while.

tsacch

Ok, I agree its AT.............I said that already..................thanks for the replies folks...........to be spent on the Garden STate Parkway.......then off to ebay by the lucky finder.........lol

Priest

tsacch, I tell people my cat is a distant decendent of a cat Mrs Leeds owned, thus making my cat a South Jersey Pine Barrian. This is said in jest of course.

Lightside

Want a nickel with a wonderful blue tone. Take a small paine of glass, make a puddle of Goo-be-gone in the center of the paine of glass Put the nickel in the puddle. Now squirt some goo be gone on the top of the nickel and put another paine of glass on the top of the nickel. Put the plates of glass in the oven and bake at 300 degrees for one hour.

One out of five coins will have the nicest blue with orange+yellow toning you have ever seen.

Works with state quarters too.

Bustman

It is a shame that most visitors to New Jersey only see the ports, Newark, Elizabeth, JC, etc. Growing up in NY I use to make fun of New Jersey all the time. But after having lived here for nearly ten years, and having traveled all over the state, I have to say there are soooo many REALLY nice areas of New Jersey. They outway the bad areas by ten to one. But don't tell anyone, we don't want anyone else to move here, its already the most populated state per sq mile.
Oh, and we have a gay governor. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

roadrunner

Bustman, I thought you had an EX-gay governor in NJ? Or did he unresign??

Technically the window ledge coins are NT imo. It's really no different than the Raymond toning that took 20-30 years. Both are artificial. With that thought, all toned coins must be artificial if exposed to accelerants of any type. Bottom line is that AT is what PCGS or NGC call market acceptable. So anything else doesn't matter. And Raymond toning is acceptable while window ledge toning is usually not. I tried the window ledge thing on a blasty white dipped out 1890 MS64++ seated quarter for 4 years. The coin was flawless except for a tiny planchet flake at 7:00 on the obverse. It came out looking neat but strange. The first year it was yellow, the second year some greens and purples started. By the end it was mostly light purple with some yellow and green highlights. I never got it into a holder (AT), but I felt it was worthy of a 66 grade at the time (1992). Funny thing is that I think I've seen scans of it, now in an NGC MS68 holder with some extra toning layers on it. That would be ironic considering I ended up selling the coin for MS64+ money. If anyone ever sees this coin (ID by the planchet flake probably buried under the toning) let me know. It would be fun to find out what other things have happened to it since.

roadrunner

MrSpud

Thay looks like environmental damage to me. Attached is a pic of an AT 2004 nickel. Also, I just want to mention, I recently attended a coin show where one dealer had a whole display case of Peace and Morgan dollars AT'd just like the nickel in this picture. Makes me glad I did the AT experiment because I was able to recognize them as AT right away. Otherwise I might have been attracted to them.

nwcs

I don't consider the window ledge to be AT as long as there are no applied chemicals or substances present or near.

orie

Just found my GooGone under the sink, going to the basement to pick out a couple of pieces of glass. Cleaned Phillipine peso here I come.

ddbird

Whenever my family and I would come from maine to virginia, us kids would always wake up right as we entered NJ. Even though all the noise of traffic would not, the smell of NJ was a garunteed way to wake us up!

Bustman

ddbird,
If you entered NJ from the north, I doubt you were smelling anything other than trees. I know its easy to pick on New Jersey, but lets be real.

Roadrunner,
His resignation is not in affect until November, he is still our Governor. If he makes it that long!

tsacch

My dad worked for years as an independent/owner operator of an over the road truck....18 wheeller/big rig driver, whatever you want to call it. He hauled dangerous chemicals, and made great $$$ for the risk he took...........he parked the rig at a plant off of exit 12 on the turnpike.......... my Mom made him change his clothes in the garage due to the smell of the chemicals...or was it the smell of north jersey in retrospect?

Bustman

You all suck!

tsacch

Actually it was the chemicals he carried....very dangerous stuff, gave him bone marrow cancer and forced him into early retirement.....problem is that all those refineries and chemical plants used to spill so much into the ground that the odors just invaded the ground and air and made the place smell bad......now there are more strict rules for handling materials, but back then, when my pops was working, there was no EPA or OSHA......grab a rag and sop it up...just wash up later.

Bet those chemicals can make some nice rainbows.

t

ccex

I once bid on a couple of coins on eBay just because the seller mentioned that his location was "New Jersey, where artificial toning is a normal part of daily life"

dorkkarl

they are artifiically toned by def'n, since a window ledge is not a natural environment for pocket change.

K S

ss350camaro

Where's the choice for fugly ???