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Ever get tired of people that insult your coins?

I've been a member of the local coin club for about five years now. I must admit that I dont go to nearly as many club meetings as I used to. I got the reminder letter in the mail last week and decided I was going to make it a point to go to the next one. Well, I got busy, as usual and forgot all about it. On the way back from the Fed Ex station (was picking up a few coins) I remembered that the meeting was tonight. Well, having already missed the first thirty minutes of it, I decided to go anyway. Conviniently, I had a few coins from the fed ex package.

So I get there, and show a pair of low/mid grade SVDB's in PCGS holders to a couple of collectors. The were all smiles about it. Then a dude (dealer) that I know very well walks over to see them. He pulls out his loop, looks at them for a few seconds. Hands them back to me and says, "Well, the got one of them right." Well, enough is enough. The dude is always bashing my coins (always in PCGS/NGC holders). Man, I dismissed my normal passiveness and said, "Well, I'm glad you think so." Then he went into how he knew he was right. I tore into his arguments, then he told me to get an ANA book. I told him I didnt need a book to tell me how to grade lincolns. It went on a little longer with him finally backing off. (He might have done a better job arguing if he were sober.)

Mean while the two guys that were standing there with me were trying to hold back their laughter. I found out that the guy appearently does that to their stuff too, and they were happy to see someone jump back.

Here's the kicker... he's always talking about how ACG does a better job than PCGS at grading coins. Concidering his stock is probably 80% ACG and 20% raw, I wonder why he'd think that... and I wonder what ACG would grade them....

Sometimes I just get hacked off at people that think they know more than me. I know there are a lot that do... but when it comes to Lincolns... he isnt one of them.

David

Comments

  • My coins have been insulted many times, and have been given bad names. How dare they!!!


  • << <i>Sometimes I just get hacked off at people that think they know more than me. I know there are a lot that do... but when it comes to Lincolns... he isnt one of them. >>

    I sometimes get that too in my speciality... and even on this forum... image
    -George
    42/92
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>Here's the kicker... he's always talking about how ACG does a better job than PCGS at grading coins. Concidering his stock is probably 80% ACG and 20% raw, I wonder why he'd think that... and I wonder what ACG would grade them.... >>



    That ought to tell you all you need to know.
  • Give 'em hell, David!

    There are a helluva lot of people out there who know more than I do and damn near everybody has a better collection, but nobody insults my coins but me.
    My coins can beat up your coins.
  • ever get a chance to see 'his' coins? image

    I don't have anyone to bash my coins - I do enough of that myself tho.
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭


    << <i>The dude is always bashing my coins >>



    That's how I kinda feel about that Mark Feld "coinguy!" He's always telling me how ugly my toned Peace $ are!

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    Michael
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    David... There is only one thing worst than a moron, that is a drunk moron. Sounds like all you did was stand your ground.image
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I don't like to be around negative people and I'd try to make it a point to avoid showing that guy my coins.

    If at a future meeting he comes over to see something of yours, you could just say, "You don't like any of my coins anyway, so you don't need to take a look."

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ever get tired of people that insult your coins? >>

    i hate it when my coins insult ME!

    K S
  • Don't let him stop you from coming and enjoying the club. If he asks to see your coins just say no and avoid arguments since you know he wont like them anyways.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • MercMerc Posts: 1,646 ✭✭
    I made a comment about 1 mercury dime on these boards and some people thought I was insulting the coin and the coin's owner. I had to make another post to explain I was talking about the coin and minting quality for that year and was not an attack on anyone. I guess I should say all my good comments first image

    I also had a guy insult my Lincoln cent at my coin club. I didn't know they guy. We have a show and tell, and I displayed my proof satin 1936 cent next to a 1937 brilliant proof. I wanted to show the differences in minting practices in proofs. The satin was graded PF64 red. it looks great but there is a single thin hairline in the obverse field that keeps it at 64. The guy picked it up and said I can't believe it graded 64 with that scratch, is that a fingerprint too? (there is no fingerprint) I told him, it is a 64, it doesn't have to be perfect. Have you even seen a satin proof before? Gee, you try to show something different and interesting and get attacked.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,974 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here's the kicker... he's always talking about how ACG does a better job than PCGS at grading coins. Concidering his stock is probably 80% ACG and 20% raw, I wonder why he'd think that... and I wonder what ACG would grade them.... >>



    That ought to tell you all you need to know. >>

    Now we also know why the Dealer is all liquored up.

    peacockcoins

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe he was going to make you an offer.

    That's how some dealers do it. They first tell you how lousy your coins to soften you up, then they low ball you with an offer to buy.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    Having the "green eyed monster" is a terrible thing. That's all it is.... jealousy pure and simple. Make fun of another person's coins to make them feel like a big man on campus. Funny how some people think they are still in high schoolimage

    It's like someone throwing it in your face about how many thousands of stupid dollars they spent on a coin while you have a coin buget. I guess they have to make up for the lack of substance between their legs.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Lucy insults my coins all the time. It hurts my feelings.

    Russ, NCNE
  • MacCoinMacCoin Posts: 2,544 ✭✭
    Russ she does my coins too but I know its only because she is jealous of the draped bust are big than her

    hey hip kitty please don't be offened
    image


    I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.

    Always looking for nice type coins

    my local dealer
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    People don't usually bash my coins, just my collecting style. Frankly, I don't care a whit. I'm happy, and that's all that matters.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,649 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lucy insults my coins all the time. It hurts my feelings.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    You know, come to think of it... One time I suggested that except for an unfortunate
    incident in Dallas there might have been a clad Franklin. She gave me one of these "image"
    and it kindda hurt my feelings too.image. In her defense though, she probably just likes
    her Frankies of more substance and unclad. It also might be a little disconcerting try-
    ing to find all those additional coins and albums.

    Whatever the case Russ, I doubt she does it to hurt.

    Some day we'll get a "image" instead and all will be well again.
    Tempus fugit.
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Jeez, man...everytime I try and fail on an upgrade I get tired of the "insult"!!!image
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  • I get more tired of the " not bad, but too bad it's in a (NGC/ANACS) slab..."
  • ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭
    The world is full of idiots - why should coin collectors be any different? What I liked about your story was there were a number of sheep in the club - none of which had taken the idoit to task head-on. Their stifled laughter tells you that you were on the right track and that this guy had it coming. I think we've all met this guy or someone like him sometime in our lives......sometimes youhave to rise above the sheep (herd mentality) and deal with the bad apples.
    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just shoot them.

    Life is too short to drag it out.

    image
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I cannot belive anyone would have anything bad to say about your coins David; and I should know as I've bought a few from you.image

    Chris
    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    interesting...tttimage
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Colorfulcoins and Onlyroosies always say I'm great grading anything but ----- roosies ------ beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but "jealousy" makes the eye go blind....image
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    topstuf may have a point here.

    Just shoot them. Hmm, has a nice ring to it. Shoot the other coins then lordmarcovan will want them as they will then qualify for his vest.image
    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474
    David
    I would stack your abilities with Lincolns against most other collectors and almost all dealers.That gentleman seems the fool.IMHO
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
  • David,

    The next time that you are showing coins and the town drunk comes along, refuse to let him look at your coins and inform him that "you are only interested in sober opinions". Don't think he will bother you after that.

    Louis
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    One of the local dealers here hates certified coins. He is stuck back in time. The top tier grading companies take out the guess work.

    David, stick to your methods you probably grade better than that dealer does anyway.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • 1) tell the person who insults your coins that they are ugly and their mother dresses them funny
    2) just shrug and say so what

    don't let a buttmunch get to you

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    anita...ana #r-217183...coin collecting noob
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  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    A background tid-bit:

    About 9 months ago, I was sitting and visiting with a really good dealer friend of mine from Houston. We visiting and going through each other's stuff. Ohhs and ahhs abounded. The dealer mentioned in the first post walks up to my buddy's table and hand's him a dansco album of Lincolns and says with beaming pride, "What do you think of this." Ok, I've already been to the dude's table and have seen the set. It's complete minus the SVDB/22-PL and 80+% of the coins are cleaned VF/XF's. I signal to my friend that it's not something he wants to buy so he politely passes (as if he needed my help on such junk.) Then the guy asks me what I thought of the set. Well, I didnt want to ruffle feathers, but I certainly didnt want to say that it was a nice set, so I said that it was ok. His responce was, "It's ok. Well coming from you, that must mean that it's a really nice set. I mean come on, all those MS cents you have." I started to really get onto him then for trying to put words into my mouth... particularly trying make the case that I was endorcing the set when it was junk. I didnt, though. I just looked at him and said, "That's not what I said."

    Eventually, you get tired of dealing with people like that.


    Btw... the price on the set... $4000. I wouldnt have paid $200.

    David

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