Steve, most of us on the boards know that in the fierce furnace of Mr. Platinum's mind,the gross carbon of wish and opinion is often blasted into the hard diamonds that he calls facts.
"Wars are really ugly! They're dirty and they're cold. I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole." Mary
Steve- In the case I gave you of the 1926-S Buffalo, how would you figure "gradeflation" when this specific coin is as good or better than every one of the seven other PCGS 65 1926-S I have seen. I don't know what the other two coins look like that PCGS has graded 65 as I have not seen them as yet. That is not just my opinion, but also that of quite a few other Buffalo experts as well. In the case of Buffalo's, the grading has gotten TIGHTER over the years for the high spread coins. My coin would have graded 65 every time it was sent in before a few years ago. As for your example of the Washington Carver series, have you ever considered that they were grading them wrong all those years and now have come to realize that they were looking for something that did not exist in the condition of the WC's? Now after seeing them for almost 20 years, they feel more comfortable handing out the "super grades" on these coins. Had you been purchasing the creme de la creme of WC's all these years you would now have quite a few upgrade candidates in your hands. Do you have them?
I have completely given up the upgrade game due to its fickleness. I don't have the time or money to put a coin in more than a dozen times to get "the correct grade". As an aside thought, wouldn't it be nice if there were bounty money offered for finding "overgraded" coins, and pcgs would put up the bounty money for one/those with "an eye" who could take all the overgraded coins off the market... Just a thought.
I don't play in the toppop league but I've had great success upgrading 58, 63, 64 material. I can't believe those who think that these grading services are some kinda non-profit designed to benefit the hobby by setting standards etc. Can't you see the benefit to them when a coin goes in for regrade 10-15 times. Do you think they want this to stop? What will happen when all the coins reach thier max grade? Submissions will fall off, profits will dwindle and BOOM the gradeflation game will begin again, all the coins will go back for resubmission and the profits will boom at PCGS.
They are the Alan Greenspans of the coin game. Talking about keeping the standards tight and ready to fight inflation while pacifying the other side with a loose grading policy when they need it to provide stimulation..
Gradeflation is as inevitable as inflation and I've decided to get in step.
I have a dealer who says "that's a 64 in a 65 holder". I said no, it WAS a 64 by 1995 standards its a 65 today.
wow, another "get a grip" comment on my getting old. Point taken. Thank you, I think. ps. I now know that 40-something (I can't remember my exact age-have to do some subtraction from the birthdate, but, with all the math necessary due to the new millineum, I don't remember how to "borrow" anymore, & I can't remember where I put my calculator, and the years change so fast.) is "behind the times", and experience for the "new generation" has no value. I guess I'll just look forward to Alsheimers, (...oops, can't even remember how to spell that anymore either)
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Steve, most of us on the boards know that in the fierce furnace of Mr. Platinum's mind,the gross carbon of wish and opinion is often blasted into the hard diamonds that he calls facts.
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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As for your example of the Washington Carver series, have you ever considered that they were grading them wrong all those years and now have come to realize that they were looking for something that did not exist in the condition of the WC's? Now after seeing them for almost 20 years, they feel more comfortable handing out the "super grades" on these coins. Had you been purchasing the creme de la creme of WC's all these years you would now have quite a few upgrade candidates in your hands. Do you have them?
They are the Alan Greenspans of the coin game. Talking about keeping the standards tight and ready to fight inflation while pacifying the other side with a loose grading policy when they need it to provide stimulation..
Gradeflation is as inevitable as inflation and I've decided to get in step.
I have a dealer who says "that's a 64 in a 65 holder". I said no, it WAS a 64 by 1995 standards its a 65 today.
Like life ; Change or get left behind
Point taken.
Thank you, I think.
ps. I now know that 40-something (I can't remember my exact age-have to do some subtraction from the birthdate, but, with all the math necessary due to the new millineum, I don't remember how to "borrow" anymore, & I can't remember where I put my calculator, and the years change so fast.) is "behind the times", and experience for the "new generation" has no value. I guess I'll just look forward to Alsheimers, (...oops, can't even remember how to spell that anymore either)