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I'm getting sooooo p***ed off!!!!

During every one of my forays through the e-bay auctions I am always amazed at the out and out lies that some sellers use.
"$79,000.00" value!!! But it now for $300.00!!!!
All these sellers are very quick to quote the PCGS price guide but you have to really strain yourself to realize that the coin(s) is graded by Old Mother Hubbard's Grading Service. It makes me want to scream!!!!!!! I don't know how everyone else feels about these "dealers" or "sellers" but to me they are borderline fraud artists.

There, now I fell betterimage

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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chill out and just look for something you want. Heck if you let the crap get to you your time on earth will be shorter.

  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Buy from these guys!! And maybe switch to decaf..... image

    Good guys sellin' good coins...
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • I know, I know I gotta calm down. It just gets to me when shysters (sp?) get away with this.
    The e-mail I sent one seller

    I could not read this auction without commenting on your absolutely disgraceful method of using the PCGS prices to sell coin "graded" at some 5th tier service. I guess anyway to make a dollar.........

    Anyone for a decaf latte??????image
  • Myqqy:

    I know I'm a bit dense but what does that list mean??
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977


    << <i>I know I'm a bit dense but what does that list mean?? >>

    The list is forum members and their ebay handles.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Report them to Ebay. It can (though it certainly will not always) make a difference.

    Here is some applicable language which sellers are supposed to abide by, based on Ebay's new cooperative efforts with the ANA :

    "Sellers agree not to knowingly participate in any way in the advertisement, sale or trade of any numismatic material using any deceptive practices including, but not limited to, false or misleading claims of sales scarcity, value, condition or investment potential."
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    What's even worse is when you get sued by the perpetrators of numismatic fraud.
  • I don't know if it would make any difference with this seller. E-bay isn't going to censure someone that sells as much as this "vendor" does. I'm sort of surprised that PCGS doesn't take some steps to stop people from using their price guide in their ads. After all, it's PCGS's guide.
    I know its a rant but I also know some newbie collectors or those that don't have the benefit of the knowledge you guys have will get taken to the cleaners.
    How about something more cheery????

    Hi to all my American friends from Toronto. I have learned so much in the last few months from you lugs....Thanksimage
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and then when you find what you want just hope the seller does not end the auction early for some lame excuse that they were notified about three days ago. Darn Fairtraders anyway.

    Maybe I should take the advice that I gave out here instead of calling the seller and reading him the riot act. image

    Ken


  • << <i> Buy from these guys!! And maybe switch to decaf.... >>



    That's an outdated list.

    The page has been updated and moved here --> Forum Members eBay Listings
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    I know I'm a bit dense but what does that list mean??

    Like Fatman said, it's a list of forum members who also sell on ebay- a lot of people around here feel more comfortable buying coins on ebay when they know the person selling them is also a familier face around here. And what large-volume-vendor on ebay has gotten you so irritated??
    image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    ss350- Thanks for the updated list!! image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • I'm not to bright and bot sure how to link this but this is a description from a currebt eBay auction Item number: 3922335655 : It is for a PCI graded 1909S - VDB inMS64RD

    CHRISTMAS in July ???? Feliz Navidad ... Joyeux Noel … Buon Natale …

    Anyone who bids on this auction must be an Idiot !!!! That’s right, If your known to have a screw loose … If your known to be a couple cards shy of a full deck … This auction is for going to be for you !!! No SANE person would bid on this coin …

    As this particular coin was cosigned to me from a very, very old Estate Sale from a galaxy far, far away … I can not offer a money back guarantee … This auction is an “as is” auction … Because anyone who bids on this auction must be mentally challenged I have to keep their identities unknown so I am having a private auction …

    Heritage, in their July 21, 2004 auction they had 2 fine specimens of SVDB’s up for auction with a grade of MS64RD. They brought $3,335 & $3,795 respectfully. Of course Heritage charges a 15% BP which of course I don’t want from you. I don’t know but, I must be tired … Must be getting old … I am going to be literally giving this coin away … My BIN price is 16% & 26% below what you would pay Heritage !!! On the later coin that’s a SAVINGS of $995 … Who’s got a screw loose now ??? Since I’m feeling charitable, I’ll even sweeten the pot. Should you use the BIN feature I’ll throw in the Shipping, Handling & Insurance. That’s right, a $25 value, making your savings in excess of $1,000 … What !! You want more ??? OK, If you use the BIN I’ll also add an Uncirculated, 1901, Liberty Head $10 gold piece …. $1,000 cash money savings & a $10 gold piece ??? Plus the SVDB … Just for using the BIN … Who’s mentally challenged now ??? What would you do with an extra $1,000 ???? Might I suggest you take a small portion and get me a Birthday present in appreciation … that would be nice .. Give the $10 gold piece to your wife, girl friend or your young numismatist at home. You’ll be looked upon like a hero … Only you will know it didn’t cost you anything .. it was a free gift …

    This coin is graded by the highly talked about, on most message boards, PCI grading service. Ever wonder why Heritage doesn’t, at least I’ve never seen one, list PCI coins for auction ?? Well, let me tell you that the people in the know, know why .. Don’t we !! wink, wink …

    This coin is, in my opinion, graded very conservatively .. I say it’s a MS64RD PQ+++ … In my, I don’t know what I’m talking about, hyping the coin opinion, think it could approach MS67RD status. I think if broken out and sent into the right grading company you could do it. I would have done it but, I like you … That’s just more money I left on the table for you to take advantage of … You can tell I’m not a dealer … If I was I’d probably be broke by now giving away coins like this.

    OK, You people that have more money than brains .. I want you to not bid on the holder .. I don’t want you to bid on the coin either .. I just want you to Bid, Bid & Bid. That’s it .. If you’ve read this far just scroll on down a little more and bid … Bid high .. Bid often ...
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    Man, that makes me want to BIN! Right after I grab my dictionary.


    When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.

    Thomas Paine
  • Haven't looked at every item but all of the bidders id's are "private". The auctions are run by "COINMOVERS" and I'm sorry if I offend anyone but tese autions are just wrong. Can someome tell me about the grading service called "MCCS"??
  • AH !
    the highly respected tandem of PCI and Coinmovers !
    whats that item number again ?
    i need to make sure i get my high bid in there.
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  • Still has dozens and dozens of these "auctions"
  • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    To quote Tommy Chong (From Cheech & Chong movie #1)----MELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOW!image
    What is money, in reality, but dirty pieces of paper and metal upon which privilege is stamped?

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