I love Ebayers that make money on shipping
goose3
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I bid and won on a monitor and merrimac medal about the size and weight of a silver round and paid 2.50 shipping. It arrived today inside of a tiny manilla envelope rattling around a long normal NON security envelope with 37c postage affixed to it.
I politely took out a bit of frustration on the guy/gal.
"the medal arrived today somehow miraculously. I am a bit taken aback by paying 2.50 for shipping and having it arrive in a 10c envelope with a 37c stamp on it. Frankly I can't believe it was still in the envelope. For 2.50 I guess I am wrong to assume or expect the item to be securely packaged in possibly a small bubble mailer of some sort. I am glad you were able to "make" 2.00 on shipping. sorry to take my disgust out on you but I am sick and tired of ebay and all the sly antics that go with it anymore. At least it arrived. JOHN"
Maybe he or she is punishing me for my political joke sig pic.
I politely took out a bit of frustration on the guy/gal.
"the medal arrived today somehow miraculously. I am a bit taken aback by paying 2.50 for shipping and having it arrive in a 10c envelope with a 37c stamp on it. Frankly I can't believe it was still in the envelope. For 2.50 I guess I am wrong to assume or expect the item to be securely packaged in possibly a small bubble mailer of some sort. I am glad you were able to "make" 2.00 on shipping. sorry to take my disgust out on you but I am sick and tired of ebay and all the sly antics that go with it anymore. At least it arrived. JOHN"
Maybe he or she is punishing me for my political joke sig pic.
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Coins shipped in envelopes from sellers never get a bid from me after the first time.
Ken
some auctions where people buy multiple items and dont ask for a discount i will throw something extra in the mailer.
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If you ship an item via First Class Insured Mail, you can expect to pay $4 or $5. AND since Post Office gives you a lot of static if you use anything but a padded evelope or a box, (They are over you if you use Safety Mailers, which used to be acceptable.) you can pay another buck or so for that. THEN if you drive to the post office, which for me is 15 miles round trip (over $5.00 if you use the IRS standard deduction for mileage), you can see that shipping costs are seldom covered by the shipping charge for many of us.
If you go the Registered route you can figure on $10+ for shipping.
So while I agree with you than your item should have been more securely packaged, I don't see how the person got rich charging you $2.50. You sort of got what you paid for, which wasn't much.
When I list on ebay..example...closed auction I certainly don't charge for my time, mileage, tires, oil, lunch, treads on my shoes, tape, saliva for envelope, wear and tear on my flooring and doors in my car and house, time spent listing the auction, etc...and I certainly won't knowingly bid or buy from people that do charge for such silly things.
Call me crazy but whether I pay 2.00 or 12.00 for shipping, the packaging and a combination of the postage/ins should be worth somewhere close to that amount.
postage is $2.13,leaves me $1.67 for packing and the 6 mile round trip to the post office.
sure fire way to get rich !
whats the IRS allow now for a car 32 cents a mile ?
1.92 and .30 and 2.13 is $4.35 !
i can make it up in volume !
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<< <i>I certainly don't charge for my time, mileage, tires, oil, lunch, treads on my shoes, tape, saliva for envelope, wear and tear on my flooring and doors in my car and house, time spent listing the auction, etc... >>
You know, it is amazing that the medal made it. Usually something like that in an envelope rolls along an edge & cuts through at some point.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
I do agree that more people should use padded envelopes though,,, I have recieved envelopes with holes at the corner where the coin fell out
FOR SALE Items
package it right so it gets there !
many on EBAY dont understand that as a seller you are obligated to make sure the items get to the other end,no different than the buyer is obligated to pay you !
my girlfriend and i share the same ebay account.
just got negged for overcharging on shipping,$12.20 for a 10 dollar sale,it was clearly stated in the auction that this was the shipping with insurance,the merch was worth about 60 bucks and sold for 10,i think she ended up charging the guy 10 bucks shipping and we paid like $14.35,if it gets lost then we have to scramble and make it right ! lost her arse on the whole deal and still got negged !
if i put up an item that may bring a high price i state "shipping is xxxx with insurance,this is not negotiable"
If an auction says what the charge is, I factor that into my bid. I like to know what I'm going to be paying if I win. BUT, when there's nothing listed and all of a sudden I get an email with a $7 shipping charge for a $30 coin.........I draw the line. I have threatened to back out of auctions and every time, I've managed to work a deal with the seller.....its always for more than it really costs but its "reasonable".
Like those posting above, I cannot tell you how many times I've received a $.37 post marked enveloppe after paying a $3 or $4 fee.
"Let the buyer beware".
If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
Won a gauden last week. Paid for express mail with insurance. I got it in priority mail, with no insurance.
I pack the item in bubble pack and place them in a security envelope.
My Ebay ads state that one coin usually costs $0.60 -$1.00 for First Class Postage. Now on top of that (Handling fees). My time to cross reference your Ebay name with your Email Address, Then Your email address with your Real Name and Address. Then there is the Ebay Listing Fees, Then there is the Ebay Selling Fees, Then there is the Paypal Payment Fees. Then I have to physically wrap and pack the item, then I have to drive it to the Post Office.
Are you Kidding, I am not getting rich on my $2.50 Charge.
Oh, I suppose you want this $10 coin insured also.
My Ebay Sales
insurance is 1.30 for the first 50 bucks,are you just eating the rest ?
the postage on this should have been at least 60 cents. I'm surprised it wasn't either returned to sender, or received "postage due"
that would have been the icing on the cake!
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>I bid and won on a monitor and merrimac medal about the size and weight of a silver round and paid 2.50 shipping. It arrived today inside of a tiny manilla envelope rattling around a long normal NON security envelope with 37c postage affixed to it.
I politely took out a bit of frustration on the guy/gal.
"the medal arrived today somehow miraculously. I am a bit taken aback by paying 2.50 for shipping and having it arrive in a 10c envelope with a 37c stamp on it. Frankly I can't believe it was still in the envelope. For 2.50 I guess I am wrong to assume or expect the item to be securely packaged in possibly a small bubble mailer of some sort. I am glad you were able to "make" 2.00 on shipping. sorry to take my disgust out on you but I am sick and tired of ebay and all the sly antics that go with it anymore. At least it arrived. JOHN"
Maybe he or she is punishing me for my political joke sig pic.
You're absolutely right. People's time and effort to pack and ship these things should be Free. Maybe the democrat or republican parties can invent a new program so as to "help out" the poor downtrodden coin buyers ( haha) when it comes to shipping costs. After all, these people are ready willing and able to spend and steal as much as possible so why not go all the way?
Tom
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
<< <i>about the size and weight of a silver round
the postage on this should have been at least 60 cents. I'm surprised it wasn't either returned to sender, or received "postage due"
that would have been the icing on the cake! >>
Baily, a long time ago a lowlife sent a fake coin to Heritage for evaluation. Well it was an obvious fake and the salesman sent it back to the guy via regular mail. Can you guess what happened next?
You'd be right if you speculated that said "lowlife" ( go ahead and sue me), had his lawyer send a letter stating that the "coin" wasa genuine rarity and worth a lot of money and was never received by his "client" and expected reimbursement. It was going to go to court too and so Hertitage got screwed.
So the rule there became "everything" gets sent in a way so as to be insured and tracked.
I founc out about that when I worked there back when the dinosaurs still roamed thru Texas. Someone sent me a fake Higley copper and before I got it in a return envelope, the coin room guy told me the story.
Rgrds
Tom
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
When I ship raw coins I either use the same bubble mailer as I do for slabs or use a Safe-T-Mailer (18c each plus envelope) I'd never send it in just a regular envelope without a Safe-T-Mailer.
I pay 16c each for 100 bubble mailers here
For an inexpensive raw coin I'd charge $2.50 for S/H. For slabs that have 60c postage I charge $3.95 and $4.50 for 83c postage slabs.
And I don't make any money on shipping/handling. It does help pay for some of the eBay and PayPal fees (but usually not all).
My time for taking pictures, writing the ad, packing and snacks to and from the post office are pretty much donated to the nice people on eBay.
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really touched a nerve on a few of you.
Could it be the few of you that overcharge for shipping and like to dream up lame excuses to justify why?
Also, Please show me where I or anyone said that sellers like this are getting Rich??
If the coin would have come packaged SECURELY I really would not have said anything. I still am surprised that it got here intact. I have paid 3 and 4.00 before for shipping and had something come packaged SECURELY with 1-2.00 postage on it and don't gripe.
You gotta love ebay threads!
For hell's sake it is a ONE GRAM BAR! put it in an envelope with a $37 cent stamp already. LOL
Tyler
politely took out a bit of frustration on the guy/gal.
"the medal arrived today somehow miraculously. I am a bit taken aback by paying 2.50 for shipping and having it arrive in a 10c envelope with a 37c stamp on it. Frankly I can't believe it was still in the envelope. For 2.50 I guess I am wrong to assume or expect the item to be securely packaged in possibly a small bubble mailer of some sort. I am glad you were able to "make" 2.00 on shipping. sorry to take my disgust out on you but I am sick and tired of ebay and all the sly antics that go with it anymore. At least it arrived. JOHN"
lets take a look at the $2.50.....
I understand just envelope and stamp....was there a mailing label? or did he just write your address.....
did he have to take his car and drive to the post office.....hm whats the price of gas.....guess he could walk.....after all if it take 1/2 hour of his time....why his time has no value.....oh hes a big dealer with lots of items....hmmmm maybe he has payroll for someone to pack (not well) his items....but of course none of this counts........
dont get me wrong I understand what your saying...but you know what....sometimes there is another side....I charge $5 on all my packing....sometimes it only cost $2 or $3....but you know a lot of times it cost $6 or $7 to....and I pay self insurance....so people dont see the charge from US post office for insurance and then they get mad at that...so you see.....you knew the $2.50 charge when you bid on the item....you got the item.....that is it....what it cost to get you the item was the same $2.50....
I know this might make you and a few others mad...but thats my thoughts....
(I'm charging $2.50 for shipping, and even with a nice safe-t-mailer (at 40 cents
each in packs of 10; I'm a low volume buyer) I probably only pay a total of about
$1.50 to get things mailed.
However, I agree that there are minimum standards to packaging coins. Goose, I
think you should focus on people improperly packaging the coins, not trying to get
the shipping cost estimated within 5%. I totally agree that just tossing it in a regular
envelope is not what any buyer would expect.
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I get my shipping supplies from the post office for free.
That is the only way to go.
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Pete
I assume that you wait until you have 10 or so orders to ship and also that you combine several errands on one trip. If you do I don't see how you can lose $$$ on shipping. The actual out of pocket costs envelopes, tape etc. should be figured into your S&H costs. Unless you buy a vehicle specifically to use in your eBay dealings your incidental costs to go to the P.O. should be of no concern to the buyer.
Seller can charge me a bit (40 or 50 cents) for the padded envelope but should get the postage and insurance right or be very close. Postage and insurance costs are no secret. All sellers should buy an inexpensive scale for the purpose of weighing items in the mailer envelope, or box, as the item will be sent out. Almost without exception, proper postage and insurance charges can be quoted to buyers and included in auction description.
Otherwise, my question for the seller is, "Do you know what you're doing?"
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
I understand that everyone wants to hold eBay sellers to some sort of "professional" standards. However, for most sellers this probably couldn't be further from the truth. It's everybody and their brother/sister selling at what amounts to an internet flea market and should be treated as such. When you do find sellers that meet your expectations, patronize them.
Joe.
i can say this,i sent an auction item out monday that i advertised at 6 bucks first class mail,looked around and didnt have a decent sized box for it except a priority mail one,insurance,tracking and priority was 6.50
no sweat,the guy gets his stuff a day sooner and everybody is happy !
No complaints yet so i guess it's working.
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I can understand why some sellers would just use a 'generic' shipping fee. Some of these people have hundreds of auctions going on at any given time. They might not have figured out the benefit of simply using the shipping calculator and just use a 'blanket' shipping amount to save time.
Not using proper shipping protection though is not cool
I once purchased a 256 meg memory stick for my PC. The stated shipping was $10. It seemed steep but i assumed it would come very well packaged and via Priority Mail. ............. !!! This bozo sent it to me in a plain letter sized envelope with no protection. Not even wrapped in a piece of paper !! 87 cents postage sticker on the envelope. and no insurance.
Of course it arrived and didn't work. Probably cracked during the trip across the U.S. and thru the postal service mail handeling system rollers.
This bonehead was suprised at my displeasure and it took a month to get a replacement (he sent it boxed this time)
Of course in the month it took to get, the purchase price of a 256 meg RAM stick went down about $15 so i ended up paying too much compared to what i could have bought it for at current pricing.
im sure as a buyer they are the first to cry wolf when they get poor packaging for the buck !
Morons
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Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
It absolutely astounds me that people will stick up for the way this seller shipped the item to me. We should really start a thread titled "EXCUSES FOR EXCESSIVE SHIPPING COSTS" or "HOW TO GET RICH MAKING 2.00/item on SHIPPING ON EBAY" or even "HOW TO MAIL A COIN IN A WHITE ENVELOPE WITH 37C POSTAGE"
My issue was first and foremost the METHOD that it was shipped, NOT the cost. That was what ticked me off upon receiving my mail that day. I believe I posted earlier in this thread that had the coin arrived packed securely in a bubble mailer or something similar and not rattling around in a plain white envelope with his and my address WRITTEN on it (like that would matter) I really would not have cared.
I believe I've made it fairly clear that frankly I don't care HOW far someone has to drive or how long it takes them to do whatever. When a seller lists/sells a coin anywhere, the shipping should be reasonable (within a buck or 2 of actual) and the item should be SECURE. That or the seller should state "Shipping will be 2.50, your coin will arrive rattling around in a plain white envelope with a 37c stamp and handwritten addresses"
How many of you would bid then??? With ebay, I guess it never pans out to Assume that people know how to ship.
Jon,
regarding your post, many dealers do that and I am fine with that. If I bought from you, at least I would KNOW the coin would be packaged properly.
I also love to go through rolls to find coins.
BST
MySlabbedCoins
That said, shipping can be quite cheap... I usually charge $2.50 for shipping... I wrap the flip/slab in bubble wrap or foam and place it in a bubble mailer. If the item is being insured (I have private insurance at a lower rate), then I take on an e/USPS Delivery Confirmation Label and have to print an invoice. Put that together and hand it to the mailman when he comes to my house, or drop it off when I go to my PO Box. I only have to go to the PO when I send Registered, and I charge a lot less than most. U-PIC insurance--stay home, mail cheaper.
The way the item arrived was pathetic.
I don't know what Post Office some people use but I can ship a slab in a bubble mailer for roughly 2.00 WITH insurance. (50.00 coverage).
sorry if you felt i was defending the idiot !
nothing further from the truth.
i ship things the way i would expect to receive them.
i have 2 negs for overcharging on shipping,both times it was less than my cost !
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<< <i>i have 2 negs for overcharging on shipping,both times it was less than my cost ! >>
Proof, that may be true, but how much of your cost was evidenced in the packaging and postage? Sometimes postage is just too expensive, even if the shipping method called for it. I have NO reason to receive a coin Priority Mail, unless it's in a package weighing over 13oz. I've never seen a package come faster because it's Priority--I've had 2-day service cross country many times with First Class--All Priority does is increase the base postage by around $3. Everytime I see an eBay ad where they ship Priority, I ask about First Class--only difference is they don't get free supplies. So add 50c, and I've saved $2.50.
Jeremy
I had paid for insurance, and they mail it to me plain first class.
At least it did arrive OK. I suppose the seller was insuring it themselves.
<< <i>I suppose the seller was insuring it themselves. >>
Which is why it's in my shipping policy that it's private insurance--easier for me; cheaper for you
Both times the shipping was clearly stated in the auction.(im sure you can look it up)
the bidder should have known the shipping was as stated and had no right to complain.
sometimes we dont know what an auction will end up so basically we have to guess at the insurance cost and or make sure we CYA.
"IF" something gets lost,the buyer is gonna want his item,i am obligated to complete the sale,most things i sell may not be easily replaced so i would spend hours trying to hunt it down.
on the other hand,if somebody buys multi items and pays for both,i will usually refund some of the shipping in the form of postage stamps (who doesnt need those) i just sent a package that was a multiple and sent 1.30 postage with it,basically refunded the shipping on the 2nd item fully,and it was properly packed besides !
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True. First class is just as fast as priority, maybe even faster depending on where the package is sent from and where it needs to go. It is possible to save some money on postage using priority for somewhat heavy packages but first class is just fine for light packages.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
Not surprising. Too many don't read auction terms. Some will "win" an item and then conclude that they are paying too much "total" after having to pay what the seller wants for postage and insurance in addition to the winning bid amount.
If I were to receive neg for "overcharging" on shipping and my real cost for shipping was more than I asked for? That particular winning bidder goes to bidder block land. Thank you very much.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
Total waste of money. Virtually no faster IF any faster at all. I think many sellers use it and insist on it's use because many of the shipping materials are free.
Add that to the list of things that I won't pay for too.
I didn't say you were necessarily wrong based on the facts of the case. However, $6 to mail a package seems excessive to me. If I bid, though, I'd pay it and take that much more out of my bid.
On the other hand, I simply state my rate for insurance. I plug into the shipping doo-hickey the amount I think it will be, and if I'm wrong, then I'll adjust it. But I can safely assume that no slabbed coin in an bubble mailer and wrapped in bubble wrap will weigh more than 3oz. If they buy more than one thing, i'll put the package together and say you owe me $x for shipping--a little more than 1 coin, but not the cost of two separate packages.
Jeremy