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Elcontador
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I took advantage of the 4 grades for $25 membership that PCGS offered a year ago and since the year was about up, I submitted the 4 coins at the last Long Beach Show. No photos, but results & comments follow:
1) 1855 NGC 1/2 Cent, MS 65 RB - Sent in for crossover. Re color, obverse was borderline full RD, reverse was 70% RD. Coin had a slight planchet ding on obverse rim @ 9:00. Better than average strike. No contact marks, save for a small one you'd have to find below & to the left of the wreath. No spots. A guy who really knows his copper liked the coin & tried to buy it.
Thought I'd have the easiest time crossing this coin, rather than getting upgrades on any of the others. Coin DNC & I have a call into PCGS about this, as I want to know why; I am not happy about this.
The other three coins were sent in their PCGS holders for upgrades.
2) 1861 Quarter, PCGS MS 65 - This is a PQ coin formerly from the Noblet Collection. Neat die clashes, attractive luster, not a contact mark to be found. Coin is fully struck. No upgrade
3) 1831 Dime, PCGS MS 64 - Bought it from Bowers & Merena 3 years ago. Not a mark on it. Coin was dipped & attractively toned in amber & cobalt hues. Eagle's rt wingtip weakly struck, which is common for this series. Booming luster on reverse, more satinlike on the obverse. If the obverse looked like the reverse, it would be a no-brainer. Because of its clean surfaces, I thought it might upgrade. No dice.
4) 1938 D Nickel, PCGS MS 66 - This was a WTF coin I bought in conjunction with bidding on a Large Cent to avoid paying CA. sales tax a few years ago. I liked it because it has "the look." A few board members have seen it. You could show the coin to E.T., say "eye appeal," and he's understand what you meant.
The coin has ice-blue centers with golden rims on both sides. It was in an older green holder and is a real attention-getter, and I was hoping that its eye appeal would carry the day. The graders agreed with me. It upgraded to an MS 67.
All things considered, I'll take it. I think the upgrade on the nickel offsets my frustration re the DNC, though I'd still like to know why the 1/2 Cent DNC, as I'd like to think I know my copper.
Based on my first submission in two years, assuming the DNC stands, I do not think I will submit any coins for crossover in the near future. If the 1/2 Cent didn't cross, I honestly don't know what coin would successfully cross.
OTOH, this is not the first time I've gotten an upgrade by submitting a PCGS coin in its original holder.
So, irrespective of what some others may say, PCGS will upgrade some of its coins on in holder submissions, if they have outstanding eye appeal.
Coins submitted at the Long Beach Show June 3rd
Logged in as received on June 9th
Grades posted by PCGS July 2nd.
1) 1855 NGC 1/2 Cent, MS 65 RB - Sent in for crossover. Re color, obverse was borderline full RD, reverse was 70% RD. Coin had a slight planchet ding on obverse rim @ 9:00. Better than average strike. No contact marks, save for a small one you'd have to find below & to the left of the wreath. No spots. A guy who really knows his copper liked the coin & tried to buy it.
Thought I'd have the easiest time crossing this coin, rather than getting upgrades on any of the others. Coin DNC & I have a call into PCGS about this, as I want to know why; I am not happy about this.
The other three coins were sent in their PCGS holders for upgrades.
2) 1861 Quarter, PCGS MS 65 - This is a PQ coin formerly from the Noblet Collection. Neat die clashes, attractive luster, not a contact mark to be found. Coin is fully struck. No upgrade
3) 1831 Dime, PCGS MS 64 - Bought it from Bowers & Merena 3 years ago. Not a mark on it. Coin was dipped & attractively toned in amber & cobalt hues. Eagle's rt wingtip weakly struck, which is common for this series. Booming luster on reverse, more satinlike on the obverse. If the obverse looked like the reverse, it would be a no-brainer. Because of its clean surfaces, I thought it might upgrade. No dice.
4) 1938 D Nickel, PCGS MS 66 - This was a WTF coin I bought in conjunction with bidding on a Large Cent to avoid paying CA. sales tax a few years ago. I liked it because it has "the look." A few board members have seen it. You could show the coin to E.T., say "eye appeal," and he's understand what you meant.
The coin has ice-blue centers with golden rims on both sides. It was in an older green holder and is a real attention-getter, and I was hoping that its eye appeal would carry the day. The graders agreed with me. It upgraded to an MS 67.
All things considered, I'll take it. I think the upgrade on the nickel offsets my frustration re the DNC, though I'd still like to know why the 1/2 Cent DNC, as I'd like to think I know my copper.
Based on my first submission in two years, assuming the DNC stands, I do not think I will submit any coins for crossover in the near future. If the 1/2 Cent didn't cross, I honestly don't know what coin would successfully cross.
OTOH, this is not the first time I've gotten an upgrade by submitting a PCGS coin in its original holder.
So, irrespective of what some others may say, PCGS will upgrade some of its coins on in holder submissions, if they have outstanding eye appeal.
Coins submitted at the Long Beach Show June 3rd
Logged in as received on June 9th
Grades posted by PCGS July 2nd.
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<< <i>So, irrespective of what some others may say, PCGS will upgrade some of its coins on in holder submissions >>
Agreed. Had one myself recently. Congrats on the nickel.
Russ, NCNE
If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
Chris
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I would think that is the answer you get from pcgs.
When you get a chance, try and post a pic of that 1/2 cent. I'd be very interested in seeing the coin.
LSCC#1864
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In my experience PCGS is more apt to upgrade one of their own older slabs than anything else. My personal experience with them is 3 for 3. And that was a trio of old holdered MS65 seated halves that they upgraded to 66. I feel very comfortable sending them in older PCGS slabs....esp. first generation rattlers. If you know the coin should upgrade they'll probably agree with you 2/3 of the time or more. Of course, if you're not an expert in grading that series, it's pot luck. We all know lots of first gen slabs that are no better than the holders they reside in.
Looks like your experience is pretty much similar to must everyone else's.
roadrunner
<< <i>How did you do upgrades and cross overs on the same order? >>
Craig,
At shows PCGS is a little more flexible with these Collector's Club submissions. I know of a couple other forum members who've done "mix and match" submissions with these.
Russ, NCNE