You asked David Hall about this last night, and he told you there was not enough activity in the British Registry to warrant awards. So, I just did a little research, and here is what I found:
There are a total of 84 sets listed in the British Registry Only 58 sets, or 70% of them, have any activity at all. Dr. Terner is the 1 and only participant in 41 of those sets. That's 49% owned by 1 man. The maximum number of participants in any single set, is 4. Only 18 sets, 21%, have more than 1 participant. You personally participate in 1 set. You are #1 in that set, and there are only 2 other participants in that set.
I personally agree with David...I don't see that the awards are warranted, YET.
I'll grant you that... You have a fantastic set, and I'm sure that some day you will be rewarded for it... But, until there is more activity in the entire British Registry, it would be unfair. If anyone should be rewarded at this time, it would have to be Dr. Terner... Don't you agree?
If his sets were still intact I would say he would deserve it but Dr. Terner's sets have all been sold and are longer current finest.
However, mine is a current finest and should be recognized now. This maybe my only chance as any upgrades for this set are beyond my means and next year I probably won't be in this position and my chance will be over.
British Registry Sets should be treated like U.S. Registry Sets, many of the sets are extremely difficult to build in high grade. Add my vote for YES on awards.
Well, British gold isn't the "end-all". They should bring on both copper and silver sets; date runs, type, etc.
There would probably be far more participants since the gold is a bit on the tough side of things. The availability of pre-1887 British gold makes 19th c. U.S. gold look like a 'cakewalk'.
There would be more sets registered if the whole range was covered as the Canadians have been. The current sets are expensive to complete and upgrade but the game continues!!
<< <i>How many lite siders voted yes? How many darksiders voted no? >>
While primarily lite side ... I voted YES!!!
I would like to see PCGS get off their bloody arse and start adding in at least the UK decimal sets as these would be fairly easy exercises for those not wanting to spend loads of mony. Proof sets by year and type sets by monarch would also be nice ...
At least in my case if the decimal coinage and Silver Britannia coins were added in ... I would have four complete sets to plop in right away and possibly a fifth if they made the 50 pence commems a separate set.
You're having delusions of grandeur again. - Susan Ivanova Well, if you're gonna have delusions, may as well go for the really satisfying ones. - Marcus Cole
I think the Brit sets should be recognized and expanded.Maybe if the sets were given a little more respect, the activity level would increase. Peole just are not aware of how tough British coinage is in terms of finding quality examples even in unc to choice condition, muchless gem.
<< <i>Well, British gold isn't the "end-all". They should bring on both copper and silver sets; date runs, type, etc.
There would probably be far more participants since the gold is a bit on the tough side of things. The availability of pre-1887 British gold makes 19th c. U.S. gold look like a 'cakewalk'. >>
I was thinking about maybe starting a set but when I saw that only gold was offered the thought went Bye Bye. If its going to be a Registry lets get the other stuff in there.
If the awards are only meant to be a form of recognition of how competitive the single collectors of a given series or type set, then the British coins won't get awards. If the awards are meant to be a means of informing our little community about the achievement of a given collector on the basis of numismatic merit then I think the British sets do deserve to receive awards if they are as scrupulously and diligently put together as other collections are. What needs to be established is whether the Registry is more a commercial/gaming initiative or a place where collectors can share the fruits of their efforts and enthusiasm with people that feel the same way about coin collecting and numismatics in general. I don't look the other way when somebody shows me a VF30 simply because I will only look at MS68 DMPL's. I enjoy coins. That is why I collect them. I really don't understand why some collectors choose not to have their collections listed and visible. I know that Scrooge McDuck and Rockerduck (all copyrights belong to their respective owners of course) have been competing for decades. Is that all the Registry is? A competition?
cho10
Collecting since the 1980's Morgan Dollars Circ. Strikes - Basic Set - Varieties - Prooflike Basic Set - Date Set - Carson City - Early S Mint Short Set - Mintmark Type Set Morgan Dollars Proof - Basic Set - Varieties Peace Circ.
<<If the awards are meant to be a means of informing our little community about the achievement of a given collector on the basis of numismatic merit then I think the British sets do deserve to receive awards if they are as scrupulously and diligently put together as other collections are.>>
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You asked David Hall about this last night, and he told you there was not enough activity in the British Registry to warrant awards.
So, I just did a little research, and here is what I found:
There are a total of 84 sets listed in the British Registry
Only 58 sets, or 70% of them, have any activity at all.
Dr. Terner is the 1 and only participant in 41 of those sets. That's 49% owned by 1 man.
The maximum number of participants in any single set, is 4.
Only 18 sets, 21%, have more than 1 participant.
You personally participate in 1 set. You are #1 in that set, and there are only 2 other participants in that set.
I personally agree with David...I don't see that the awards are warranted, YET.
JMHO
Cameron Kiefer
09/07/2006
You have a fantastic set, and I'm sure that some day you will be rewarded for it...
But, until there is more activity in the entire British Registry, it would be unfair.
If anyone should be rewarded at this time, it would have to be Dr. Terner...
Don't you agree?
However, mine is a current finest and should be recognized now. This maybe my only chance as any upgrades for this set are beyond my means and next year I probably won't be in this position and my chance will be over.
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09/07/2006
Absolutely they should be included in the awards!
Larry
Dabigkahuna
Walt
09/07/2006
But who's counting
I have never seen anyone more .... nevermind.
09/07/2006
No harm intended...Honest
I've just had a bad week.
Please accept my apology.
09/07/2006
There would probably be far more participants since the gold is a bit on the tough side of things. The availability of pre-1887 British gold makes 19th c. U.S. gold look like a 'cakewalk'.
The current sets are expensive to complete and upgrade but the game continues!!
Web: www.tonyharmer.org
<< <i>How many lite siders voted yes? How many darksiders voted no? >>
While primarily lite side ... I voted YES!!!
I would like to see PCGS get off their bloody arse and start adding in at least the UK decimal sets as these would be fairly easy exercises for those not wanting to spend loads of mony. Proof sets by year and type sets by monarch would also be nice ...
At least in my case if the decimal coinage and Silver Britannia coins were added in ... I would have four complete sets to plop in right away and possibly a fifth if they made the 50 pence commems a separate set.
Steve
Happy Rock Wrens
You're having delusions of grandeur again. - Susan Ivanova
Well, if you're gonna have delusions, may as well go for the really satisfying ones. - Marcus Cole
Steve
09/07/2006
<< <i>Well, British gold isn't the "end-all". They should bring on both copper and silver sets; date runs, type, etc.
There would probably be far more participants since the gold is a bit on the tough side of things. The availability of pre-1887 British gold makes 19th c. U.S. gold look like a 'cakewalk'. >>
I was thinking about maybe starting a set but when I saw that only gold was offered the thought went Bye Bye. If its going to be a Registry lets get the other stuff in there.
No Vote but a yes would come from me.
Ken
If the awards are meant to be a means of informing our little community about the achievement of a given collector on the basis of numismatic merit then I think the British sets do deserve to receive awards if they are as scrupulously and diligently put together as other collections are.
What needs to be established is whether the Registry is more a commercial/gaming initiative or a place where collectors can share the fruits of their efforts and enthusiasm with people that feel the same way about coin collecting and numismatics in general.
I don't look the other way when somebody shows me a VF30 simply because I will only look at MS68 DMPL's. I enjoy coins. That is why I collect them.
I really don't understand why some collectors choose not to have their collections listed and visible. I know that Scrooge McDuck and Rockerduck (all copyrights belong to their respective owners of course) have been competing for decades. Is that all the Registry is? A competition?
Collecting since the 1980's
Morgan Dollars Circ. Strikes
- Basic Set - Varieties - Prooflike Basic Set - Date Set
- Carson City - Early S Mint Short Set - Mintmark Type Set
Morgan Dollars Proof
- Basic Set - Varieties
Peace Circ.
Isn't this what it is all about?
It also looks like there is still hope. From HERE
<<Awards may also be presented to the best sets in one of our newest Registries, the British Coin PCGS Set Registry.>>
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