LordM's Dad's Day Gold giveaway (***NEPTUNE WINS!***)

lordmarcovan

The winner will be randomly selected to receive a BU 1997 Canadian 1/20 ounce gold Maple Leaf coin. Just post a brief anecdote about your own father. This giveaway is dedicated to NJMark's dad, who recently passed on from a stroke, and Aethelred's nice dad, who I've met, and who's undergoing heart surgery. But also to my own dad, and all the other dads out there.

You don't have to give the coin to your dad if you win it. I won't tell him. But you do have to say something nice about him if you aren't gonna give him the coin.

Think I'll go see my dad today, if there's time betwixt all the post office/haircut/credit union errands.
(He's the assistant director of the library, and we have some books to return, so there's another errand. Might bring him lunch, too.)

cosmicdebris

Never really knew my dad. He is a paranoid schizophrenic that had to be put in a home.

SPEEDracer

My father the hero. My father has served his four children for the past 37 years. He is the most selfless man that I have ever met. When he is not working he is taking care of our Grandmother who has little time to live due to cancer. He could be selfish and buy himself a house, but he would rather live in a one-bedroom apartment and take care of others than make himself happy. I just wish that I could have spent more time with him while I was growing up. Whenever I would spend time with him, it was all about the kids. He did not bring work home with him and he took us on a different trip every weekend, mostly to distant Civil War Battlefields. Now that I am a father, I know how precious time with my daughter is. My tour of duty in Iraq right now has made me realize more than ever that I need to cherish every fatherly second that I can. My father is a true hero who made me the man that I am today. Thanks Dad!

Garneteye

My Dad was an "old Navy CPO" who married late in life, so he was retired by the time I was 6. I grew up with him being the only male at the PTA functions, Bible school, etc. All the kids thought he was great as he always had a pocket full of Tootise rolls to give to them!

As I got older and discovered girls and started dating: when I had a date and started to leave the house, he would shake my hand and during the handshake would slip me a $20.00 bill (a lot of money in those days). It was not to be spent except in an emergency and was to be on the kitchen table the next morning, but what a comfort to know that I had it just in case.

I lost him 40 years ago but he got me into collecting appx. two years ago when I came home to take care of my mom; I found his "hoard" of coins and in doing research on what I had found, discovered a love for collecting. Thanks Dad!

Thanks also to LordM for starting this thread and bring back great memories!

Dan

Neptune

Sorry in advance if this is long, but the memories are so sweet.

My Father (a Navy veteran and very proud American) was known as the man with the "bull"....... for more reasons than one, but the main reason ...... He had a big black fake bull sitting in his yard (which was occasionally lent for various parades, etc.).

The 'bull' was always in the newspapers for one reason or another ... it was a small town.....Over the years, the 'bull' was stolen on several occasions - and most times, the culprits were caught - altho sometimes the bull was just 'dropped off', but the thieves were not revealed. Most times they were high school pranksters - and I guess the tradition was passed down thru the years, as the 'bull' was always disappearing! One time he made the culprits do yardwork for the weekend, but never pressed charges as he knew it was a prank.

The last time that the 'bull' was stolen, Daddy received several postcards from the 'bull' during his various travels throughout the world. One of them said something like "I have MOOOO-VED" - and another from London "having a great time - wish you were here". A reward was offered in the newspaper - again! That was the longest time that the 'bull' had ever been gone - approximately 2-3 years!!! Daddy never thought he would see his 'bull' again. The 'bull' never had a name -it was just "the bull". All of his children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren were photographed sitting on ''the bull".

The 'bull' is home now, but has been put inside the fence now for safekeeping in the garden with Daddy's trees and flowers that he cherished so much. He grew them exclusively to make bouquets for the girls and ladies.

The 'bull' got a few bumps and bruises on his last trip home when he was dumped off at the driveway entrance, but Daddy never knew it........ He had just gone into the ICU, and never came home. It was the same day that my Mother came home for ICU - She was in a month, and Daddy went in shortly before she came out. She came down from her hospital room to see him when he was admitted.

He didn't think that Mom would live .......... and he stayed in ICU for 3 wks. before passing on Memorial Day 2002. He found out he had cancer while she was in the hospital and never told any of us because he knew we were worried about Mom in ICU ------ but it was already out of control when he found out. Out of a family of approximately 25, taking shifts staying with him - it was I who was with him when he peacefully passed away, and for that I feel privileged.

He would have been happy to have known that his 'bull' had finally come home.

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Thanks for the chance to enter your giveaway. I obviously wouldn't be able to give the coin to my Dad, should I choose, but would keep it forever in his honour to pass to my grandchildren - AND it WOULD be labeled as such, with a copy of this thread. Even if I don't win, thanks for inspiring me to take this moment to enjoy one of my Dad's favorite 'bull' stories. He loved talking about his 'bull'.

I would like to add one last thought to everyone who's father is still alive. Do NOT let time slip by. Spend REAL QUALITY time with your Dad and Mom while you can. It's the little things that you will cherish in your memories when they have passed - and it is also the LITTLE things that they cherish as well. Don't be too busy to stop by, call and to just "sit and talk". Tell them how much you love and appreciate them now, while you can.

Prayers go out to MarkNJ and his family, and for the speedy healing of Aethelred's Father - and to anyone else who mourns the loss of a beloved parent.

To keep this coin related, our first blue books were from Daddy, and the last Christmas gift that he gave to his great-grandchildren before he passed was ........... you guessed it - blue books with coins. I am trying to keep his tradition of family values and fun of collecting coins alive in my grandchildren in his honor.

(can you imagine trying to HIDE this thing!?!)

0john0

My dad is a quiet retired Navy fighter pilot, vietnam and Gulf War #1 vet. All my friends in high school and college called him "the legend" because he has 2 distinguished flying crosses a purple heart and 12 air medals. Dad never talks much, partly because Mom talks alot, but when he does speak it is usually something worth listening to. When I went to college and had my first serious girlfriend dad had a talk with me after a few months. His story was something like this: College is like a big library, and girls are the different books on the shelves. All the books are different and some you will like more than others. You are only allowed to check out one book at a time, but that doesn't mean that you can't skim the pages of other books when you already have one checked out. And if you really want to check out two books at a time, just make sure you don't get caught. So be sure to use your library card as much as possible while at college.
Good ol's dad.

That's my story.
Happy upcoming Father's day to all the Dad's here.

I'm really enjoying reading this thread so far. What a great idea.
-John

ibzman350

Never knew my dad, sorry

Herb

MSD61

Great giveaway LordM!

I am very sorry to say that my father and I didn't not have the wonderful relationship many here on this forum have been blessed with.
He was a very angry, abusive and hateful man and that was all I knew of him while growing up. It was not until I became an adult and looked at my father's history that I understood why he was this way.

He was one of 11 children from a poor family living in a Northern Irish town. He grew up fighting not only outside his home, but in it as well and life in his family was full of hardships. He started work at age 6, never finshed school and was in and out of trouble.
As a young man he joined the RUR (Royal Ulster Rifles) and was send to France. His battalion was part of the first wave into Normandy. He served well and this must have been a bright spot in his life but short lived. Through the years his anger and drinking took their toll and my father died in 1985 an alcoholic, bitter and lonely man.

I am very thankful and happy for those of you that have the sweetest memories and good times with your fathers. Tis a true blessing!!!

meos1

My Father started my entry into this hobby by collecting his own circulated pieces. I mimiced his hobby by collecting whatever was with in my financial reach. Mostly foreign coinage but a few US issues slipped in there when he would return from a business trip. My Dad often told funny stories and jokes he gleened from his customer base. I remember he would come in from the road with his suitcase and briefcase in hand. The unveiling of the gifts came a little later in the evening after dinner. Once he spent several months of evenings making a cut away of a briggs and stratton engine. Much of my abilities to repair contraptions I have never seen the insides of come from his endless abilities to repair and replace the worn out and broken things that come along in time. He was a great tinkerer and developed some very interesting contraptions including one of the first incidiary waste disposal units for campers using propane. He was a diligent and sucessful horticulturalist. We "farmed" a 14 acre tract of land that when he became too ill to work ended up feeding us. When I was in scouting my Father was there, leading, mentoring, and assisting. I could always count on my Father and as I got older the time we spent together was really special. He was a salesman and to this day I can sell ice to eskimos based off my watching and listening to the deals he would make. Above all he was honest, loving, caring, and a Christian. Sadly, he passed away about a month after 9/11. I wish I had spent more time with him. But more than that I hope my children love me as much as I loved him.

Dan Watson

ColinCMR

I've been trying to peer pressure my dad into going for his Ph.D for awhile now. We are both going to the Torex show in Toronto soon, maybe I'll try to convince him there.

To all the daddies out there: Have a happy Father's day!

0john0

I've been trying to peer pressure my dad into going for his Ph.D for awhile now
Oh God, why would you do that? I hated the time I spent getting mine. It wasn't a waste, professionally, but there is time better spent that getting a PhD. I do enjoy having my weekends back, and not battling with advisors who don't care about your priorities.
-john

CoinHusker

I wish I could give my Dad the coin if I win. He died in 1989 and because I was born late in his life he never had the chance to see my kids or enjoy coins with me. He owned his own business and is work was his life. As soon as he retired he lost a reason to live and he passed away soon afterward. But that isn't to say he wasn't a great Dad. If he wasn't to tired or pre-occupied he would always try to play catch, go to a ball game, watch a football game on Tv or something like that. We never had a family vacation that wasn't a business trip. I'm not complaining as I got to see a lot of the country that way.
His business was his hobby so I didn't get the itch fro him, but what i do regret is that he died before he could enjoy this hobby with me and now my son. I think he would have loved it.

Thanks LordM for another great giveaway.

docday2003

Well, I have a great dad, and in fact he is the one who initially got me into coins. He is a great man, very loving. He grew up in a tough home, and tough neighbourhood, but decided that he didn't want to live that way. He has given everything he has to his family. Fortunately he is still around, though his health is failing. God bless that good man.

maddogale

Actually I have two anecdotes...so bear with me...

The first was when I was in high school, in the summer between my junior and senior years. My mother had been killed just a year earlier in an auto accident, so at the time we (myself and my brother and sister) had grown closer to our dad. I was heading out to play softball that night, and of course, eventually to stay out late playing basketball with my friends and drinking beer until the late hours. He was always and still is very softspoken so when he stopped me on the way out, I just figured he was going to ask when I might be back. Instead he told me that he knew what guys like myself and my friends did, and that we were just out to have a good time, and he had no problem with that. However, he also told me to please call him, no matter what time it was, in the event I had a bit too much to drink for the evening. He said it mattered more to him to have me home safe rather than laying in a ditch dying. At that moment I knew (and told my friends so) that I had one cool dad!!! I never had to call him either, by the way. Always kept my promise to keep it straight.

The other involved him going to church one morning with my stepmom and talking to one of the locals at the town gas station. They got to talking crops and such (we lived in a farming community) and told the guy that of his kids and his wife's kids, I was the only one he never had to "pay" to get extra chores done in the fields. The guy said "Oh really?, Neil just does it for free?" Dad replied..........."Yeah I guess you could say he is good for nothing!!" He said the guy roared laughing, and when he related the story to me, I had to laugh out loud too....it was just too good!! To this day he still tells it!!!

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL DADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrpaseo

My father left when I was young, but before he left, he did give me a set of coins. Mostly Cleaned Lincolns, but all the same he was the one that got me into coins many long years ago. I still remember to this day him showing me how to clean a Lincoln with a pencil eraser.

On the bright side, while I have been in the service, I met up with him one day. We went out to eat and while I was driving I heard him breathing heavy. When I looked over, he was crying.

When I questioned why, he told me he was just so damn proud of me, he was over whelmed.

I don't hate him for leaving, and even though he has not been here for me, I still love him.

Ray


Edited to add:
NJMark, I am sorry for your loss.

LordM, Great idea for a coin giveaway.

laserart

As I sit here trying to think of an anecdote I keep coming back to just one thing my dad said to me before he died. I never knew a day in my fathers life that he was well. He had asthma and emphysema almost his entire life. Near his end of life he was in several hospitals and died in a Veterans hospital in CT. The day before he died I went to visit him . We talked about just anything that came to mind. As I was leaving I told him I thought he was getting better. With that his last words to me were "No I'm not, you stupid shi!". Those words still resonate in my mind the same as they did in the stark hallway near the elevator.

Coincracker

Don't enter me LM, I'm not here enough to be worthy of such a great giveaway. I just want to say thank-you, to lordmarcovan. Also, to my father, who passed away in Nov. 1989. Thanks dad for being there for us, with all the great advice and knowledege. Not once, did you let us down. My father, my hero.

Thanks,LM.

drthunder

Since I've gotten older I haven't been as close with my father, but I did recently visit my parents and it was really great to see them. Hopefully, I will be able to visit more often and spend more time with him. My father has never really been into coin collecting, but he does have some proof sets from the 80's. His father (my grandfather) was an avid collector, although coin conditions weren't very important to him. I remember putting lincoln cents in folders and when I had trouble fitting them in, my grandfather actually hit them in with a hammer!

lordmarcovan

Thanks for the anecdotes, folks. Keep 'em coming. I see now that many of the tales are bittersweet, but such is life. I suppose I have been blessed.

All good stories, but Neptune's story about "the bull" is the best so far.

Makarovii

My father was raised a poor kid on a farm in NJ after his father died at a very young age. He use to tell me during WWII he had to eat banana splits until they were coming out his ears to make the weight to join the Navy. Dad said he never had a chance to really play any sports when he was growing up, his high school only had a track team, so he supported my brother and I during all the years we played little league baseball. That's 10 years of driving me to every practice and game he could possibly make. I can still remember him sitting in the car smoking cigarettes and watching our practices, waiting for me. My father died of a heart attack at the age of 59, too many years of smoking and drinking. It hurts to think how he never saw me, his youngest of three, get married although he did meet the woman I married a year before he died. To those of you that still have your father take the time to tell him how you feel about him, some of us never got the chance and live to regret it.

1234567890

The best lesson I've learned from my father is: don't ask a question if you don't want to know the answer. Well, I can't say I've learned that lesson. Just the other day I forgot the question I had asked in the first place...

DBSTrader2

My dad is retired after many years of teaching at all levels - - junior high thru graduate schol. He has had to slow down quite a lot in recent years after a severe heart attack and quadruple bypass surgery, but he still cares very much for myself and siblings, as well as our kids.

We and they don't get to see him as much as we'd like, as they spend half a year in Florida, but we're lucky to have all lived our lives with 2 full sets of grandparents for my kids.

The thing I appreciate most about my Dad (and there's a LOT to choose from) is the world of experiences and places he opened up to us as kids. As both my parents were teachers, we all had the entire summer off every year, and went on many fantastic trips, whether they were to the shore, Lake George, Niagara Falls, the 100 Islands & Montreal, Florida & DisneyWorld, and many others.

The best trip of all was a 42-day cross-country extravaganza that so impressed me that I can't wait to repeat even a small portion of it with our own kids. I often thought they patterned the movie "National Lampoon Vacation" on our trip - - down to the station wagon they drove! Just a parttial list of our itinery was:

Wright-Patterson AFB (Ohio)
St. Louis (& Arch) - - including getting lost in a bad neighborhood off the freeway - - much the same as in the movie!
Kansas City & Independence, MO
Rocky Mountains
Boulder/Denver, CO
Yellowstone
Snake River (incl. site where Evel Kneivel jumped & whitewater rafting)
Jackson Hole, WY & Grand Ttons
Grand, Bryce, & Zion Canyons/National Parks, including Mule Rides thru Bryce
Las Vegas
Salt Lake City & floating in the Great Salt Lake
Lake Mead/Powell/Hoover Dam & the pile of carp at the marina eating popcorn - - you could WALK on them!!
Los Angeles & San Simeon
overnight on the Queen Mary
San Francisco, Chinatown, Alcatraz, Cable Cars, Ghiradelli Square
Muir Woods/Redwoods
Volcanic caves in Idaho
Mt Rushmore
the "Two Stiff" Motel and various others along the way - - most without advance reservations!

And I'm sure there's a ton more I'm forgetting right now!

Of course, I can't forget to mention that I was celebrating my birthday as we rolled into San Fran. As my Dad had already been nice and gone out of his way to let me tour the Denver Mint (much to the complaints of my siblings), I opted for Jelly Beans as part of my gift, rather than also tour the SanFran Mint!

I got my first chance to drive on my learner's permit out West, tearing down a hill outside Salt Lake City at 65mph and running on fumes!

Just SO many rich memories to last a lifetime, and wonderful experiences to want to pass on to MY kids!



In summary, it'll be nice to win the gold piece, but I know I've already won the GRAND PRIZE with my dad!!

- - Dave

Popcoin

My dad died in 1970 at the age of 60. He worked very hard in the cotton mills of NC to support Mom and us 5 kids. He created in us a work ethic that has carried us to much better lives (financially) than he even had. I just hope I have passed at least a small part of him to my son and step-sons.

For all of you that still have your dads around, make ever minute count.

Thanks LM for the giveaway and God Bless all Dads.

Larry

Dennis88

My dad is simply fantastic!!!!!!!

Dennis

Aethelred

Don't enter me, but I am honored that you have dedicated this to mine and NJMark's dads!

Very classy Rob!

GoldCoinLover

Which forum member is NJMark? I Didn't seem him post here.

tbirde56

While my dad never had any interest in collecting coins he did foster mine when I was just a young first grader by letting me go through his pocket change to fill my first Whitman albums. Friends of his also gavre me my first world coins and notes. And here I am today all because of him!

lordmarcovan

Heloooo!?!

I'm giving away a FREE GOLD COIN, here, and this thread has sailed like a leadbottom dinghy with no oars, lately?


I'd be happy to just keep the thing if y'all aren't interested!

phut

LordM,
You asked people to work(think and write) and used a big word(anecdote).
Sure scared me out of posting.
I've worked with my dad for 30 years, no short stories to tell.

lordmarcovan

OK, no anecdotes necessary. Geez! Just a sentence or two. Or not. It's just a random drawing- enter it as you wish. Not necessary to spill your personal details or tell a longwinded story if you don't want. I ain't givin' away a big gold coin, anyway.

laserart

........enter it as you wish, hows about "often"?

mercurynut

My Dad was the old fashion hard working give all the time you can to your family type of dad and I love him for it.

vrtech99sboss

LordM,
Nice giveaway and Happy Father's Day to you!
I've been thinking about this all week and am sad to say that as much as I love my dad, I don't have all those special, touchy-feely memories like some do of theirs. However, I do have a quick story about my dad and his dad...but it's not as touching as some posted
When we'd go to visit my grandma and grandpa (dad's folks), my grandpa would slip each of us kids (myself and two younger brothers) a silver dollar (Ike) when we gave him a hug as we were leaving. Well, we'd give them to my dad for "safekeeping." Unfortunately I think they were all later spent by my dad for the purchase of liquor and cigarettes. Now, a couple decades later, he is only 60 years old, but in bad health because of his bad habits. I love him, but want to encourage all fathers to take care of themselves because no matter how old their "little girl" gets, she still needs her dad!
So there you go, a dad/grandpa/coin story!

Happy Dad's Day to all you fathers (and grandfathers)!

GaCoinGuy

Although I could go on and on about the things my father has done for me.....I think instead I will post about my grandfathers(I have 4, since my parents divorced and remarried).

My grandfathers.........D.W. Coates Sr, W.C. Sawyer Sr, John Taylor, and James Webster........

All 4 served in WWII, 3 in the Army, 1 in the Navy. Each came home bearing a Purple Heart, and a heavy sadness over the things they witnessed. I was lucky to have been old enough and wise enough to listen to them all when they talked about their experiences. They have taught me the greatest lessons about life. GF Coates taught me a love of the outdoors and got me started in coins......GF Sawyer taught me to never be anything but who I was born to be.......GF Taylor taught me a love of God and of Family.......and GF Webster taught me to never give up(and this only recently while at the age of 82 he underwent chemo and radiation therapy for lung cancer and not only survived, but thrived and is now stronger than he ever was in the 20+ years I've known him).

Through these 4, I learned to be what I am......though stubborn and heard-headed at times, I have compassion for even my worst enemy.

Here's to all the fathers, grandfathers, uncles, and brothers................**CHEERS**

Agflyer

My dad is someone whom I look up to greatly. He began learning to fly at the age of 45. It was a dream of his since he was young and I'm proud of him for fulfilling it. He owns his own plumbing business and I always figured that I would be a plumber too, though he helped to hook me into flying and I have since gone on to learn to fly professionaly. His dream is my dream and it's all because he took the chance. Thanks.

newsman

My father was a hero in Vietnam, though he never talked about it. The only legacy I ever saw from the war was the anger and sense of betrayal he carried through 20 more years in the Army. A lot of times he took that anger out on his kids, especially after he had been drinking. The greatest lesson I learned from him was to forgive, because he let a lot of his best opportunities get away while angry. That's why we get along better now than we ever did.

Sylvestius

Hmm gold giveaway hey? I did one of these once... it was fun.

Therefore i'd very much like to be entered.

Well today in the UK it is Father's day, and two days ago it was my father's 52 birthday. It was also he who introduced me to this hobby by giving me a tinful of old coins 14 years ago, i never looked back. So here i am with you fine guys and gals now, rubbing shoulders with some fine numismatists and it's all thanks to my father!

Cherwood

Unfortunately, I lost my dad 13 years ago to cancer, and I miss him everyday.

I love remembering the times when I was young......I was the youngest of 4 girls, so naturally I became the tomboy. He taught me how to play ball and ski. We had such wonderful times camping at the lake. He always called me Tiger or the Snotty Nosed Kid (don't know where he got that one!).

Please enter me in your giveaway. Although I won't be able to give him the coin, I will always treasure it on his behalf.

MacCrimmon

My Dad's most enduring trait is as a consummate caretaker.

The original Energizer Bunny, he just keeps going.

My Dad has been burdened with the constant care of my Mother's Stepdad and her Mother over the past 15 years.....hospitals, emergencies untold, buying groceries for the grandparents, fixing everything that broke in their house.....24/7.

Both of my Grandparent's passed away this past October, and still the mountain of work continues in preparing Grandmother's house for sale, cleaning it out (any guesses on how much junk the old folks accumulated).......and then,

he still is the strong man for the '3 girls', my Mother, my Sister who has MS, and her daughter. Hopefully, the girls will have their man for another 20 years because I'm not sure I could do as much as he has, but I'll sure as heck try.

Now, just 70, the foothills of Carolina are calling him back from Texas. Dad, I hope and pray you can sell everything and put your feet down somewhere where you can finally relax a bit more.....godspeed!

solid

I am mostly a U.S. Coin guy, but my Dad loved World coins - I have a picture of him and
one of his displays at a coin show around the time I was born. I was going to post it
here, but cannot find it at the moment.

When I was a kid, aged 5-10 or so, he would sometimes get out his coins after much
hounding from me and let my brother and I look through them. My favorite coin was
a big silver coin the size of my hand! I can still remember holding it.

He died in '92 and sometime after that I was cleaning out his safe. It was mostly
photos and old papers as he had sold most of his coins at some point in prior years
when his business was tight. But I did find a Panama 20 Balboa Proof that must of
been the coin I remember. Of course it was not nearly the size of my hand as I
remembered it to be!

Ken

Cherwood

When is this contest over?

laserart

When he remembers he set it up.

IronmanDuke

Great Giveaway Lord M -

After WWII, my Dad went to night school, graduated, and got a job as an officer in a bank.

My Grandfather asked him if he got to carry a gun, and was disappoined when the answer was "No, I'm not that kind of officer".

He would occasionally pulls coins from circulation. On their wedding day, Dad gave Mom a 1921 Morgan (his birth year).

The coins is circulated (G) ... the dealer did not know why I wanted to put it in a holder.
This coin will be passed on through the generations.

Regards,
Steve

lordmarcovan

<< <i>When is this contest over?

When he remembers he set it up. >>



You can tell laserart has been around. Nailed that one right on the head!

Sorry for the brief, yeti-like disappearance. Will select a winner when I get home, after I have caught up on PM's and so on.

Aethelred

<< <i>

<< <i>When he remembers he set it up. >>



Sorry for the brief, yeti-like disappearance. Will select a winner when I get home, after I have caught up on PM's and so on. >>



That one made me laugh out loud Laser!

There is nothing Yeti-like about you Rob, you are indeed the great white monkey-man of the Himalayas. If I ever get the chance to cut your foot off I'll do it and make millions on the book deal!

laserart

Well I have to call 'em as I see 'em.

Neptune

I still dunno what a yeti is.

tbirde56

The legend of the Yeti.

lordmarcovan

I haven't forgotten about this giveaway. Just procrastinating. I'll draw somebody's name before the weekend is out.

laserart

<< <i>I haven't forgotten about this giveaway. Just procrastinating. I'll draw somebody's name before the weekend is out. >>


If I ever should draw an executioner, I'd want him to be just like you. Keep putting it off

newbiecollector

Did I win?....darn...I forgot to enter.....How are ya Rob?