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Has anyone ever heard of, seen or possessed a "counterfeit" Walking Lib. Half Dollar?...

I'm curious...Replies appreciated.image
What is money, in reality, but dirty pieces of paper and metal upon which privilege is stamped?

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  • I have a lead "SLQ" ..... I don't know what an "SLH" is ............
  • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    Standing Liberty Half..a.k.a. Walker Halfimage
    What is money, in reality, but dirty pieces of paper and metal upon which privilege is stamped?
  • richbeatrichbeat Posts: 2,288
    Someone here on the boards (a loooong time ago) posted a pic of a lead one, I think from eBay. image
  • Coins101Coins101 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭
    No, but I have a buffalo nickel made out of lead.


  • << <i>Standing Liberty Half..a.k.a. Walker Halfimage >>



    Ah.... I had to leave after I posted. While driving I thought that maybe you meant a Seated Liberty Half.
  • VeepVeep Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭✭
    I saw a bad, lead cast copy at an auction once.
    "Let me tell ya Bud, you can buy junk anytime!"
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a few walkers in my counterfeit collection. None are very high quality and
    they appear to be contemporary counterfeits. They are pot metal and lead. All
    are cast except I think one of the lead is struck.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    ive never seen one..cladking anyway you can post a pic of one?
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    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • Yes, and they are not terribly uncommon. A likely product of the depression as all have been dated during or prior to the late 30s. We run across them occasionally when counting 90%.
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  • rottnrogrottnrog Posts: 683 ✭✭✭


    I have one around here somewhere, all I have to do is find it in this mess!!!!

    When I find it I'll post a scan. It is a poorly done lead one.



  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085
    I have a 1917 lead cast Walker counterfeit in vg-fine condition with a reverse blob for a mintmark. I can't tell if its a D or an S. The quality is not very good and wouldn't fool anyone today but it looks like it has seen circulation.
    It was given to me years ago by old garbage man who knew I collected coins. Sorry I can't post any pics at this time.
    A thing of beauty is a joy for ever
  • eyeeye Posts: 81
    Yes. I have one made of lead that I have had since I was a kid. My Dad got it in change in the 1940s.
    D.M.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Contemporary counterfeits are really a fun area of the hobby. Would love to see a few images.

    Here is one I always liked.
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    Larry

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had a vintage counterfeit lead pot metal 1947 Walking Liberty half.
    Got it in a lot of circulated silver coins at 4 times face value.
    It turned out to be the most valuable coin in the lot - I sold it for 10 times face.


  • Coins101Coins101 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭
    What is interersting about my buffalo nickel is my dad got one in change when he was up visiting his brother (my uncle) in the late forties. I was up working in the area in 1978 and went to an Antique/Junk Store and was searching through their Junk coin box. Bingo, found it. And it is the same date.

    I guess it is really an indian Head nicle as it is smooth on the other side.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    The 1921 is frequently counterfeited by date alteration.
  • lclugzalclugza Posts: 568 ✭✭
    Bruce Fox (who wrote a book on Walkers) had one that actually broke in two!
    image"Darkside" gold
  • That is a neat counterfeit trime. I've seen one like it in person. The lines forming the outline of the star don't meet right at the points. I'm amazed that anyone would bother counterfeiting a trime.

    I've also seen a base-metal counterfeit Walker. It looked like there were bubbles on the fields. Also it had toned an very odd color of gray and black.
    The strangest things seem suddenly routine.
  • GonfunkoGonfunko Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭
    I don't have a fake Walker, but I do have a fake 1965 Washington Quarter that I got at the school book fair. The rim's indented, and it was below weight. I took it to science class and compared it to a genuine one. Anyhow, since I go to a Department Of Defense school, the government gave me a fake quarter and still owes me 25c!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back when I lived in Massachusetts, a local dealer specialized in counterfeit coins. Yes there are those who collect these things and poorer the work the better.

    He had many Walking Liberty half dollars in his inventory. All of them were cast copies usually in lead, and done so poorly that no collector would be fooled by them. These things were undoubtedly made during the Great Depression when many people were very hard up for money.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm thinking there was a guy back in the 40's or 50's that made nickels.

    He drove law enforcement crazy trying to catch him.

    Anyone know the story?
    Larry

  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    If you're interested in counterfeits, you might contact njcoincrank.

    He had a selection of them at a White Plains show in the fall.

    I bought a sweet counterfeit 1861 quarter eagle. He also had a couple of fake gold dollars and I seem to recall some mercury dimes, buffalo nickels and Walkers, too.

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm thinking there was a guy back in the 40's or 50's that made nickels.

    He drove law enforcement crazy trying to catch him.

    Anyone know the story? >>



    I'll have to refresh my memory from one of the books in my library, but here what I have from the top of my head.

    I think you are referring to a fellow from Camden, NJ who made some very good copies of the Jefferson nickel. He made the mistake of using a 1944 nickel for the obverse and a 1939 nickel for the reverse. The result was a war nickel without the big mint mark. These are the pieces that noted in the footnote in the Red Book as counterfeits. All of these coins have a “molding device ‘die break’” above Monticello that looks like a flagpole.

    I think this guy had an engineering background which helped him produce a more convincing copy. But like I said I need to refresh my memory
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536


    << <i>All of these coins have a “molding device ‘die break’” above Monticello that looks like a flagpole. >>


    Huh? Never heard of that and I have a couple of them and a booklet that was written them. There is nothing in the diagnostics list about a "flagpole" There is a die defect in the R of PLURIBUS that leaves a big hole on the leg of the R. the only things I can remember about Monticello and flagpoles is one variety of a genuine coin that has a "flagpole" die break, and that when the nickels first came out in 1938 there was a rumor that went around that they were going to be recalled because "they DIDN'T have the flagpole thatis on the actual building".

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