So here I am doing the PSA shuffle...

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 2:08AM

Same old drill. Got that first little tease of an email yesterday saying that my cards had been received for processing, and every time I walk by my computer I jump on the PSA site and see if any grades are up. With the express service it shouldn't be as bad as the last submission I did (on the $5 special - my first real submission which I thought took forever at two weeks from received to shipped back to me!) Anywho, this one is only 2 cards and it said so in big letters on the outside of the package, so I'm feeling pretty optimistic that it could be any time now. I thought about doing what mikeschmidt did and waiting til I got the package in the mail, but there's no way I can hold that long on something like this!

CON40 · May 20, 2004 2:14AM

Jeff;

Good luck and I hope the wait is a short one for you... any Nolan's among that robust lot?

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 2:15AM

Yeah, it's the candy lid and a Dell Stamp.

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 2:18AM

Mudflap02,

You will have to wait the full five days, before they are posted. What ever day they noted as received ex. Tuesday, your grades will be posted Tuesday next week. The only way they would be done faster is if there is nothing else for them to do, which I highly doubt.

Keith,

Did you go after the ugly 74 Ryan PSA 10 in the Mile High shilling auction?

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CON40 · May 20, 2004 2:24AM

Can't wait to find out what you get on that Candy Lid... my prediction is a PSA 6. Good luck on the Dell Stamp too. Centering is the key on that one.

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 2:25AM

I'm just gonna throw the predictions out now - it would have been fun to take big scans of both of them and get some predictions from the board, but they're both such oddball items and it's really hard to jusge something without seeing it in person.

The candy lid I have to say quickly became the favorite item in my collection. The only trouble is that I had the damn thing for 2 days before it went on vacation to Newport Beach for a week or so. Some of you probably saw the thread I posted on it earlier. When I got it, the pictures didn't do it justice! The colors are so vivid and bright that the picture almost looks like it is 3-D. It's a great looking picture, with the airbrushed thing going on with the hat. The downsides are that the centering is pretty rough, and any time it's not perfect on a round card with a colored border it will always look worse than a square card with no borders that has the same problem. There was a little chipping on the back, and on the tab there was a tiny indentation where some little whippersnapper probably stuck his thumbnail to get at that delicious gum (kind of cool though - gives it a little character). Like I said before I got it, I'm expecting a 5 on it. Anything higher than that is bonus for me. It will be the first one graded and a damn hard thing to find, so who cares?

The Dell Stamp is a different story. I bought an intact book and pulled the stamp out myself. I don't exactly know what I'm doing on those, so I gave it my best shot. The only reason I sent it in is because it's pre-1972 and doesn't qualify as a modern card. My guess is a 6 - I requested NQ's because i didn't want to end up with something like a 7 MC. Also, with shipping fees, it was either 1 card graded for $20 or 2 for $30. There were a few others I really wanted to send in but with summer tuition around the corner, not for $10 a pop.

CON40 · May 20, 2004 2:29AM

Scott;

I did not... thought the gavel price seemed reasonable (but that 15% vig hurts). A friend of mine saw it in person and would not recommend it to me due to a rough corner and a nasty little print dot in the top purple banner... I'm saving my money for... for... for... I'm using my left hand to restrain my right hand from clicking the mouse and making a bid on another $2K Ryan currently available! I'm sweatin' bullets with that low low low low lwo low price!!

BTW: why do you refer to the 74 Ryan as a shilling? Care to elaborate for an ignoramus?

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 2:39AM

Keith,

Its more of a feeling then anything concrete.

Its just the way their auctions are run, when time is up the auction should end. The way they do it, it seems like they check all the lots and start running bids up on the ones that would be bargins. Also factored into that is the private bidding, you will never know if its the house or another collector. Everybody comments how you can't trust a Ebay Private auction, these are run the same way and they friggin go on forever, constantly renewed every 15 minutes.

When I won my 71 Ryan PSA 9 in their November 2002 auction, that thing went on until 3AM Central time, it was just ridiculus.

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SoFLPhillyFan · May 20, 2004 2:39AM

Jeff:

Sent 10 cards in this week. 2 are the 81D Ryan and Schmidt from the boxes bought from you. Testing to see what PSA thinks.

Thanks again for working with me on those. They obviously were not opened, judging on the wide selection of stars and HOFers. The series just bites altogether.

Will let you know how the grades turn out.

Working on three 86 Bonds 11T that are no less than 9, so that feels better.

Good luck with yours.

Keith

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 2:44AM

Mudflap,
Good luck on the submission, waiting on my 181 card sub myself although my wait will be substantially longer. Where did you find the unusual Ryans? My local card store has mostly modern stuff which helps me nada.

Brent

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 2:50AM

Keith who bought boxes from me-

Yeah, I bought a lot of 4 of those boxes off ebay - I usually don't dabble in unopened wax. I did for a little while until I realized that stacks of commons and wrappers didn't look as nice as little plastic holders with Nolan Ryan cards in them. I went ahead and sprung for those because they ended in the middle of the night and I figured I would open 1, sell 3, and hopefully make my money back. I sold all 4 without any problems. I was kind of worried at first because the seller was kind of hard to get in touch with, but the boxes all arrived well packed. I checked the packs in every box and as far as I could tell they looked great. It was really hard not to go tearing through one right when I got it (As you can probably tell right now I have the patience of a 2 year old). Good luck with your cards - especially the Ryans- I'm sure you will get 10s and 11's because that's what happens when I let something go!

Scott-
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that PSA will have my grades up before next Tuesday. They were able to easily beat their deadline in the middle of the $5 special, and I'm going to have faith in them again and publicly say that they can do it. If not, screw it, PSA just lost tens of dollars of my business every year and I'm joining the boys on the PRO message boards and registry. I'll even save them the trouble and use my own sharpie to turn that 3 on my Ryan rookie into an 8 (like turning an F on a report card into a

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mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 2:54AM

Brent -

Found the Stamp on ebay - they're pretty easily had. The candy lid I found on Naxcom and was able to talk the guy into my price range. I don't even want to think what that thing would have gone for if it had been on everyone's favorite online auction site. Let's just say it wouldn't be sitting in my collection. I know what you mean though, my town doesn't even have a card store. The Bay is pretty much where I get 99% of my cards, graded and raw. The others I just butter up Keith and Scott for their table scraps.

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 2:58AM

Yeah Mudflap, I use ebay waaaaay too much, lol. I have bought quite a few from Keith lately, and had a wonderful experience as he is a class act.

And tablescraps are yummy in my tummy.

Brent

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:04AM

On a side note, a member posted his website where he sells cards. I ordered a few Ryans (raw) that I needed and shipping was very reasonable. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Sims Classic Sports
Brent

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 3:04AM

Jeff,

Funny you should mention changing grades, I did that in junior high, I turned a couple of "D"'s into "B"'s but I didn't take care of the carbon paper and the ruse lasted for about 5 minutes and then I will say that I never did that again.

Hopefully you will get your grades early, but don't hold your breath. Hope you get what you feel the cards deserve as grades.

Scott Jeanblanc
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mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 3:04AM

I just realized that 4 of the top 6 Ryan set collectors are all on here posting at the same time. We should get some sort of medal for that.

And that medal would say "Pathetic Loser" on the front and "Get your @$$ back to work" on the back.

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:07AM

This is my first day of vacation and termination is the penalty for using the computer at work for going online.

Brent

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 3:12AM

I took the day off after the Mile High Auction last night, I was up to late bidding the 74 Ryan PSA 10 up to the $2K mark, before I did some math and decided that the 93 Ryan Ref PSA 9 is a better choice.

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mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 3:16AM

Speaking of the Mile High auction, I just noticed this and wanted to post it. Here's the card from the mile high auction that sold for a little on the havey side of $2,000.

Here's another one on eBay:

At first I thought it was the same card (notice the print spot) and thought the seller could be in a world of hurt if someone went for his $6,000 card he had already sold. But the cert #'s are different. I checked my 1974 PSA 5, and..... no print spot. I know which one I would rather have.

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 3:18AM

And here's a little 1/1 beauty that can be had for a cool $4950. If this guy were smart he would sell it for a reasonable price and put a fair amount of cash in his pocket before a second comes along and cuts its actual (not perceived) value in half.

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:18AM

Scott,
I saw that you left positive feedback for 4_sharp_corners_baseball. It lookes like a scam to me since the seller was using a name so similar to a very successful ebater. There is a Thomas I am looking at the seller has, should I bid with confidence?

Brent

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 3:20AM

Brent -
It's perfectly safe. It's the same seller, he's just using different IDs now for some reason. He has different ones for different sports. Also for cards graded 8, his ID is "Making the grade". Top notch seller though. For as much business as he does he has always shipped me my cards quickly.

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:23AM

Thanks Mudflap,
I have used 4sharp quite a few times with great results. I am relieved and bidding with comfidence, some aggression and before I have a cold one to preserve my financial independence.

Brent

CON40 · May 20, 2004 3:30AM

Hey! I'm back... this is the price I pay for having to work normal hours! What a thread... true Ryan LoveFest!

Scott, kudos for hangin' in there on the 74 Ryan in the MHCC auction... based on the two scans, the print dot must be the prerequisite to get a PSA 10! I think I'll spend my cake on upgrading to a couple PSA 9s from 69-72. Wonder who got that MHCC Ryan? Any suspects willing to come forward?

I think you might get a good price on that 93 Refractor. I just cut off my right hand so I can live up to my word!

Believe it or not, I am still waiting on my PSA 10 1980 Ryan to arrive... guess DSL really sits on a personal check for that amount... I can't blame them, and I did receive the email that it's on the way. SOMEDAY!!!

4-sharp broke out his business into the 4 major sports and has IDs for each one. I like it better as I don't have to wade through auctions for Iverson, Jordan, Montana cards to see his baseball stuff.

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:34AM

Keith,
Ditto on the wading through basketball, that keeps me off the Sports Trading forums.

Brent

PS- Anyone want to start a LeBron James Master Set? lol

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 3:36AM

I've got a question about the refractors. I've never seen one in person, only the scans on ebay. For the other cards from the set,it's pretty evident when it's a refractor. But on the all-star cards with the green background, they look identical. Is there any giveaway on the back of the vard or anything? And do they look that different in person?

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:37AM

BTW Keith,
I saw that you bid on the 83 OPC PSA 10 Ryan, I set my alarm to bid on it but slept right through it. It makes me feel a little better that your bid didn't meet the reserve since I would have been bidding against my own funds, lol.

Brent

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 3:41AM

Bid with confidence, 4_Sharp_Corners just broke their business down by sport. Had to PayPal his original account since they didn't have the new ones set up yet.

You know I pulled my 74 PSA 9 out and it is superior in every way to either of those show graded bribery gifts. If I had the one from MHCC raw and submitted it, it would come back a PSA 8. The edges are all chewed up, one corner looks like crap, and that damn ugly white spot destroys the eye-appeal. At under $2K I was only looking to buy the slab.

Just my take on those.

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mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 3:44AM

I've bid on the now infamous 4-sharp OPC card as well. I won it at $94 a couple of weeks back but didn't meet the reserve. He has listed it at least 5 times. I'm sure it will show up tomorrow morning. The sad thing is that whoever goodcompany2000 is (who has been conspicuously quiet lately) bought 2 1983 OPC 10's from 4 sharp at 300 apiece when they were 1/1 and 1/2. Makes you wonder about the whole low pop aspect of the hobby.

CON40 · May 20, 2004 3:44AM

Is there any giveaway on the back of the vard or anything? And do they look that different in person?

Jeff... it's not easy to tell the difference. When you tilt the card you see the prismatic foil, but because the background has that rainbow pattern, the regular issue looks kinda like a refractor. There are no distinguishing features on the back either. When you see these raw on eBay, be careful as many turdbags will try to sell a common as a refractor and you can't tell the difference in a scan.

Brent... that card will be back! It's been listed 4 times now with no takers even at $100. Next time, his reserve will probably be $75. If I happen to get it, I'll have a PSA 9 available for cheeeeep.

No UPS today... still no PSA 10 1980 Nolie!

SoFLPhillyFan · May 20, 2004 3:48AM

FYI - just received notification that PSA has checked in the 10 card submission I shipped from Florida on Tuesday.
Looks as if they are really stepping up the process.
Sent my cards Priority Mail.

Keith

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:49AM

Keith,

I'll give you $100 for it if you'll throw in one of the Upper Deck basketball packs Mudflap mentioned on another thread, lol.

Brent

CON40 · May 20, 2004 3:50AM

he sad thing is that whoever goodcompany2000 is (who has been conspicuously quiet lately) bought 2 1983 OPC 10's from 4 sharp at 300 apiece when they were 1/1 and 1/2. Makes you wonder about the whole low pop aspect of the hobby.

4-sharp had all 3 all the time and just unveiled them one at a time (along with the pop numbers which is a little sleazy)... if you had all 3, I bet they came from the same submission. Maybe someone here can look that up. I know it can be done, but I have my dunce cap on today.

goodcompany2000 is "TexasHeatWave" on the Master Set. His name is Brian Haynes. We were swapping lots of email, but then one day he just never replied and has done nothing on eBay simulataneous to his email silence. But he was hot'n'heavy for Ryan for a while and now nothing. He offered me one of those OPC 10s when he got the second one, but it was obvious that it was overpriced. I'd like to hear from him and I hope he's ok, but he's 100% AWOL.

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 3:55AM

I was thinking about TexasHeatWave today, couldn't believe I passed him. He was hot to trot on the Ryans when I signed up for PSA in December. I hope everything is ok, I always assume people get married or have kids when they drop out suddenly. If I drop out, it's because I'm dating Jenna Jameson and have NO time for anything but Jenna, lol.

Brent

CON40 · May 20, 2004 4:03AM

Ryan Farabough is another guy who was really active at one time... and poof! Gone...

Alright, truth be told... as the self-proclaimed "Godfather" of this sorry family, I had to do some "business" with those two and they refused an offer from me that they couldn't refuse. They sleep with the fishes.

It was just business... no different than my business with you boys!

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 4:05AM

Wasn't TexasHeatWave selling bunch's of his Ryan cards. I thought I remember getting a offer email about a month or two ago.

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CON40 · May 20, 2004 4:07AM

Scott;

That was Texas Heat Collection, aka Dan Vandefifer. Great guy going through some tough stuff that forced him to sell off his Ryans... what a shame. Hopefully, he'll pick himself up by the bootstraps and get back in the saddle soon.

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 4:08AM

I offered to trade him about 6 PSA 10's for 1 of his OPC cards after he bought the second one and he declined. As far as the pops go, if 4 sharp had them all then they submitted them at different times - I remember looking at them as the cards were listed.

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 4:11AM

I feel awfully left out, make me some offers peeps. I have yet to refuse, although it was the Godfather offering, lol.

Brent

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 4:13AM

Man, I know what that is like, I came within about two more months of unemployment of having to start selling my Ryans early this year. I sold just about every vintage and high dollar modern rookie card that I had, before I finally got a job in late February. It will probably take a couple of years to fully recover financially from that 9 month layoff.

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mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 4:14AM

Brent-
Just took a look at your set - PMing you my extras as we speak.

CON40 · May 20, 2004 4:17AM

Don't look now... but this is 40 posts on this thread in 2 hours!!! More evidence that us Ryan a$$wipes are a sick, fanatical lot! <insert maniacal Dr. Evil laugh here>

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 4:17AM

I know the feeling Scott, sold off 95% of my collection in '94 due to a job loss. I am grateful for the experience though. I am much better off now than ever. Although the ex may disagree.
Brent

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 4:18AM

If anyone wants anything the SJ 2 sets are my duplicates, the only one that isn't available is the 92 #4 Micro PSA 9 which is on its way to Keith (Con40).

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CON40 · May 20, 2004 4:20AM

I came within about two more months of unemployment of having to start selling my Ryans

But, Scott, you're back and making up for lost time! Life is good!

I got no more "offers" left until I make another submission... the family cleaned me out of all my extras!

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 4:20AM

Keith,
I don't have the laugh, but try this.
Click on friggin
Brent

Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 4:26AM

Thank goodness Scott, I thought you were going to wipe my butt twice on the Master Set. I'll take a look and try to reduce your secondary set.
Brent

mudflap02 · May 20, 2004 4:40AM

OK guys I gotta run to work - have fun doing what you do.

556916 zip 77840 if you guys get bored later on and want to check it out.

It's been real and it's been fun, but it ain't been real fun.

-Jeff

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 4:45AM

I just have all these PSA Ryan slabs laying all over and the doubles were mixed in with the main set cards, so the 2nd sets on the registry became the best way of organizing them. I wasn't trying to demoralize anybody, I just haven't found a good way to store these things. Right now they are in by Grade piles on my pool table, along with all the cards that I have been going through for the last two weeks.

I think the dog is pissed at me, for being home and ignoring him, he just gutted his stuffed reindeer and there is cotton stuffing all over the place.

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Bighurt4 · May 20, 2004 5:59AM

Would PSA grade this?
Ryan Uniform
Brent

sjeanblanc · May 20, 2004 6:07AM

Only after Donruss buys it and cuts it up into 700 or so patches, and make Game-Used cards out of them.

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So here I am doing the PSA shuffle...

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