I like the convience of paper in my pocket and not the weight of coins.
Speaking from experience in traveling to Singapore, Hong Kong and Australia, the extra coins in my pocket wasn't that bad. Australia uses 1 and 2 dollar coins, as well as 5, 10, 20, and 50 cent pieces in all transactions. I really never had a a huge amount of change in my pocket, because I was more likely to reach in my pocket first when paying for things than reaching for the wallet.
I feel strongly that we should be using coins like most of the rest of the world. Coins are more fun (to me, anyway), last longer, and save the government $. Dollar coins have never really been accepted in our country, and it will be very hard to give it another try. Here's a bit of history:
- Bust dollar: Produced until 1803, when the gov't finally gave up since few people used them (a few dated 1804 were produced in the 1830s as souveniers only), the Spanish reale was in widespread use at the time, gov't finally gave up - Seated liberty dollar: Produced, but not used much -- gold was favored at that time -- gov't finally gave up - Trade dollar: Produced mainly for overseas trade, but rarely used, gov't finally gave up - Morgan dollar: Produced in large quantities mainly due to pressure from the silver lobby, rarely used (too large a value at that time for most transactions), mostly banks kept them in vaults to use for backing up the silver certificates, gov't finally gave up - Peace dollar: Produced to commemmorate the ending of WWI, rarely used, gov't finally gave up - Ike dollar: Produced as a commemmorative, mainly due to the gambling industry's pressure to replace Peace dollars no longer available, rarely used, gov't finally gave up - SBA dollar: Produced as a result of a gov't study saying it would save money, rarely used, gov't finally gave up - Sac dollar: Produced as another attempt by the gov't to get people to use coins, gov't on the verge of giving up
<< <i>Before you vote remember that according to the GAO, switching from paper to metal would save the US Government half a billion dollars per year. >>
Which politicians would manage to squander some other way
I'd gladly pay my share ($1.67) of that ESTIMATED $500 million a year just for the convenience of carrying around dollar bills.
Dollardude--why should any of us care about the way "the rest of the world" does things? We're not the "rest of the world" and should be free to do things our OWN way, if we so desire.
I heard they were making a French version of Medal of Honor. I wonder how many hotkeys it'll have for "surrender."
<< <i>Before you vote remember that according to the GAO, switching from paper to metal would save the US Government half a billion dollars per year. >>
Which politicians would manage to squander some other way
I'd gladly pay my share ($1.67) of that ESTIMATED $500 million a year just for the convenience of carrying around dollar bills.
Dollardude--why should any of us care about the way "the rest of the world" does things? We're not the "rest of the world" and should be free to do things our OWN way, if we so desire. >>
Since it is America, it would make sense to do things the most logical and efficient way. This is no aution but it's worth a lot more than $1.67 per person to have a useable dollar coin in increased revenue alone. The convenience would be price- less.
I like paper. I would love to like dollar coins but its hard to carry very many around in wallets and they are so heavy and bulky for me to use. Paper is the way to go right now.
<< Dollardude--why should any of us care about the way "the rest of the world" does things? We're not the "rest of the world" and should be free to do things our OWN way, if we so desire. >>
Good point. I guess my own personal preference for coins over bills coincides with what most of the rest of the world does. Yes, you are right, we in the U.S. should make up our own minds. The government prefers coins over bills, and is trying to convince the public to change their minds. I am thankful we live in a free country where our government does not make decisions on its own without the consent of the people.
One more point. Given the fact that we live in a global economy, it would make logical sense to switch to coins -- especially the same dimensions as the euro -- since we do a lot of business over there.
My vote is for coins. I find them very convenient. I've heard others say "I don't want to carry 20 heavy coins in my pocket". So I ask to see thier 20 $1 bills. I say keep a ten and a five in your wallett and carry a few dollar coins. About 90% of the machine at work take the dollar coins and its much easier to pop in a coin than trying to flatten a bill and feed it into those bill acceptors.
<< <i>I've heard others say "I don't want to carry 20 heavy coins in my pocket". So I ask to see thier 20 $1 bills. I say keep a ten and a five in your wallett and carry a few dollar coins. >>
I don't want to carry 5 heavy coins in my pocket, either. Cladking is right: convenience is priceless. For most, bills are convenient.
The government has been trying to make the U.S. metric for the last thirty years. Besides a few rare things like two liter bottles of coke, it hasn't succeeded. Ultimately all political power devolves from the people, and these same people decide what they will and will not accept. Be it a measurement or monetary system.
I heard they were making a French version of Medal of Honor. I wonder how many hotkeys it'll have for "surrender."
<< <i>Ummm, how will I slip a coin into the strippers G-String? >>
Haven't you seen the new PVC flips that attach easily to any piece of swimwear or lingerie?
You shout in your sleep. Perhaps the price is just too steep. Is your conscience at rest if once put to the test? You awake with a start to just the beating of your heart. Just one man beneath the sky, Just two ears, just two eyes.
At the time of this post, the poll was standing at 28 votes for paper, 35 votes for metal and 1 vote don't care.
I think that these results reflect the coin collector bias. The general public does not want a metal dollar. Ike (too big), Suzie (diameter too close to the quarter) and Sackie (just don't want it) have all failed. I don't want a metallic dollar because when I travel it will add to the weight of my bags and be one more thing that will get me pulled over at airport security.
When I go to a show I normally carry about $25 in dollar bills so that I can easily make change at shows. I have no desire to carry Sackie dollars or any other matallic dollar.
The last one dollar coins that gained any popularity at all were the Type 1 gold dollars which were minted in the 1850s. The silver dollar had very little popularity except in isolated communities (in the western United States and among freed slaves.) Otherwise it was coin that no one wanted as shown by the large number of Mint State Morgan dollars that are available today.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
I would love to carry Dollar coins if they would bring back Morgans and/or the Peace design. Kinda like the Liberia "Morgans" This ones been traveling around in my pocket for years.
I recently "played" with it with a dremel fine wire wheel to try some experimental "whizzing".
Oh well ............. Back in the pocket for 10 more years.
Most stuff you buy in vending machines are over $.50. So it's feed a few quarters into it. Try to feed a dollar into it. Or feed a dollar coin into it. Half the time my dollar won't feed on first try and 1/4 of the time it won't feed at all, and last time I checked three quarters outweigh a Sac dollar. Also I don't carry around a large number of one dollar bills although I don't know the percentage of people that do. I'll usually have no more than two or three unless I get a bunch in change at which point I spend them quickly as they bulk up the wallet making it harder to find larger bills. I've been in other countries that use dollar coins and had no trouble adapting. One uses what's available and gets used to it.
When the Sacs first came out I would buy rolls and spend them. It felt like I always needed suspenders when I had twenty or so of those coins in my pocket.
If the mint would come out with a much smaller coin that was, say, silver plated I would be all in favor of dropping paper currency $1 bills. A small silver plated dollar coin would be cool because there would be some bullion value to the coin. Also, it wound make my pants fall down if I have a bunch of them in my pocket.
<< <i>there would be some bullion value to the coin >>
Catch 22. If the mint produces a dollar coin that contains even a little bit of precious metal, it increases their cost, decreasing their seigniorage, and decreasing the "savings" of coin vs. bill.
I heard they were making a French version of Medal of Honor. I wonder how many hotkeys it'll have for "surrender."
Small size dollar coins are depressing Large Dollar coins are a pocket novelty but too heavy to have too many in the pocket. Paper dollars are practical. I really like to see a Silver dollar again similar to the Morgan in size or even the 50c piece size. Would be very nice.
Well ya know, it might cool to stop making the paper bill, and destroy the ones that go through the banks. Then, the paper money never loses value, it just slowly gets destroyed untill all the smart people cashed in later when $1 bills are scarce (collectors items) kinda like the $2 bill that would increase the circulation of the coin dollar making the paper dollar kind of what the coin is (Collectable) If that happens I will save a number of good uncirculated paper dollars and then give them to my grand or great grand children. My grandpa anways gave us 2 dollar bills for our birthdays and it was nifty.
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Speaking from experience in traveling to Singapore, Hong Kong and Australia, the extra coins in my pocket wasn't that bad. Australia uses 1 and 2 dollar coins, as well as 5, 10, 20, and 50 cent pieces in all transactions. I really never had a a huge amount of change in my pocket, because I was more likely to reach in my pocket first when paying for things than reaching for the wallet.
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- Bust dollar: Produced until 1803, when the gov't finally gave up since few people used them (a few dated 1804 were produced in the 1830s as souveniers only), the Spanish reale was in widespread use at the time, gov't finally gave up
- Seated liberty dollar: Produced, but not used much -- gold was favored at that time -- gov't finally gave up
- Trade dollar: Produced mainly for overseas trade, but rarely used, gov't finally gave up
- Morgan dollar: Produced in large quantities mainly due to pressure from the silver lobby, rarely used (too large a value at that time for most transactions), mostly banks kept them in vaults to use for backing up the silver certificates, gov't finally gave up
- Peace dollar: Produced to commemmorate the ending of WWI, rarely used, gov't finally gave up
- Ike dollar: Produced as a commemmorative, mainly due to the gambling industry's pressure to replace Peace dollars no longer available, rarely used, gov't finally gave up
- SBA dollar: Produced as a result of a gov't study saying it would save money, rarely used, gov't finally gave up
- Sac dollar: Produced as another attempt by the gov't to get people to use coins, gov't on the verge of giving up
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<< <i>Which dollar do you prefer? The rag/paper Federal Reserve Note or the metal alloy coin? >>
Before you vote remember that according to the GAO, switching from paper to metal would save the US Government half a billion dollars per year.
<< <i>Before you vote remember that according to the GAO, switching from paper to metal would save the US Government half a billion dollars per year. >>
Which politicians would manage to squander some other way
I'd gladly pay my share ($1.67) of that ESTIMATED $500 million a year just for the convenience of carrying around dollar bills.
Dollardude--why should any of us care about the way "the rest of the world" does things? We're not the "rest of the world" and should be free to do things our OWN way, if we so desire.
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<< <i>Before you vote remember that according to the GAO, switching from paper to metal would save the US Government half a billion dollars per year. >>
Which politicians would manage to squander some other way
I'd gladly pay my share ($1.67) of that ESTIMATED $500 million a year just for the convenience of carrying around dollar bills.
Dollardude--why should any of us care about the way "the rest of the world" does things? We're not the "rest of the world" and should be free to do things our OWN way, if we so desire. >>
Since it is America, it would make sense to do things the most logical and efficient
way. This is no aution but it's worth a lot more than $1.67 per person to have a
useable dollar coin in increased revenue alone. The convenience would be price-
less.
Good point. I guess my own personal preference for coins over bills coincides with what most of the rest of the world does. Yes, you are right, we in the U.S. should make up our own minds. The government prefers coins over bills, and is trying to convince the public to change their minds. I am thankful we live in a free country where our government does not make decisions on its own without the consent of the people.
One more point. Given the fact that we live in a global economy, it would make logical sense to switch to coins -- especially the same dimensions as the euro -- since we do a lot of business over there.
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<< <i>I've heard others say "I don't want to carry 20 heavy coins in my pocket". So I ask to see thier 20 $1 bills. I say keep a ten and a five in your wallett and carry a few dollar coins. >>
I don't want to carry 5 heavy coins in my pocket, either. Cladking is right: convenience is priceless. For most, bills are convenient.
The government has been trying to make the U.S. metric for the last thirty years. Besides a few rare things like two liter bottles of coke, it hasn't succeeded. Ultimately all political power devolves from the people, and these same people decide what they will and will not accept. Be it a measurement or monetary system.
<< <i>Ummm, how will I slip a coin into the strippers G-String? >>
Haven't you seen the new PVC flips that attach easily to any piece of swimwear or lingerie?
Perhaps the price is just too steep.
Is your conscience at rest if once put to the test?
You awake with a start to just the beating of your heart.
Just one man beneath the sky,
Just two ears, just two eyes.
I think that these results reflect the coin collector bias. The general public does not want a metal dollar. Ike (too big), Suzie (diameter too close to the quarter) and Sackie (just don't want it) have all failed. I don't want a metallic dollar because when I travel it will add to the weight of my bags and be one more thing that will get me pulled over at airport security.
When I go to a show I normally carry about $25 in dollar bills so that I can easily make change at shows. I have no desire to carry Sackie dollars or any other matallic dollar.
The last one dollar coins that gained any popularity at all were the Type 1 gold dollars which were minted in the 1850s. The silver dollar had very little popularity except in isolated communities (in the western United States and among freed slaves.) Otherwise it was coin that no one wanted as shown by the large number of Mint State Morgan dollars that are available today.
This ones been traveling around in my pocket for years.
I recently "played" with it with a dremel fine wire wheel to try some experimental "whizzing".
Oh well ............. Back in the pocket for 10 more years.
Most stuff you buy in vending machines are over $.50. So it's feed a few quarters into it. Try to feed a dollar into it. Or feed a dollar coin into it. Half the time my dollar won't feed on first try and 1/4 of the time it won't feed at all, and last time I checked three quarters outweigh a Sac dollar. Also I don't carry around a large number of one dollar bills although I don't know the percentage of people that do. I'll usually have no more than two or three unless I get a bunch in change at which point I spend them quickly as they bulk up the wallet making it harder to find larger bills. I've been in other countries that use dollar coins and had no trouble adapting. One uses what's available and gets used to it.
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If the mint would come out with a much smaller coin that was, say, silver plated I would be all in favor of dropping paper currency $1 bills. A small silver plated dollar coin would be cool because there would be some bullion value to the coin. Also, it wound make my pants fall down if I have a bunch of them in my pocket.
<< <i>there would be some bullion value to the coin >>
Catch 22. If the mint produces a dollar coin that contains even a little bit of precious metal, it increases their cost, decreasing their seigniorage, and decreasing the "savings" of coin vs. bill.
<< <i>Ummm, how will I slip a coin into the strippers G-String? That's all that really matters!!! >>
Just like a vending machine -- put the coin in the slot