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paigowjohnnypaigowjohnny Posts: 4,257 ✭
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I've been working on a nice VF-EF circ set of Liberty nickels in a Dansco...even cracked an ANACS VG 1912-S (one of the key dates) to put in the book.
But...
Today I won the "granddaddy" of the series on ebay...a PCGS slabbed 85. Do I crack it and put it in the book, or keep it slabbed and put a little filler in the book ??
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  • DominusDeusDominusDeus Posts: 993 ✭
    I plan on keeping any coin I get in a slab right where they are, in the slab.
  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭
    Do you plan on selling the set? I say crack it for the Dansco... if you ever go to sell the set, then get it reslabbed... keep the insert too...
    -George
    42/92
  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    I did too, but I lost weight and bought bigger pants.
    "Have a nice day!"
  • KriekKriek Posts: 1,044
    I concur with George image
    J.Kriek
    Morgan Dollar Aficionado & Vammer
    Current Set: Morgan Hit List 40 VAM Set
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭✭
    Crack it...
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Keep it in the slab.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    uhmmmmm edited for stupidity...........crack away.........it will always regrade at the same level
    Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    crack away and save the paper insert
    Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I plan on keeping any coin I get in a slab right where they are, in the slab. >>

    I agree-us totally with the above-us comment-us from DominusDeus!! image

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • Russellp23Russellp23 Posts: 397
    Help me understand the pros of a Dansco album. I don't think I'd ever want to put my coins in an open album like that, but maybe there's something I'm missingimage
    Coins, shiny coins!
  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529
    Personally i would leave it as is and put an insert in the book.
    I have a Morgan set that i have several CC's in GSA holders. I feel the GSA holder is unique and wouldn't want to erase that time in the coins history. A PCGS slab doesn't have the history but it does represent a grade opinion and authenticity on a key issue.

  • GoldfingerGoldfinger Posts: 319 ✭✭
    Keep it slabbed.
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  • mercurynutmercurynut Posts: 3,207
    Go ahead and crack itopen if it finishes your set.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DITTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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  • paigowjohnnypaigowjohnny Posts: 4,257 ✭
    Yeah...I didn't crack my 09-S VDB and 14-D cents for my Dansco...more because those issues have bigger authenticity issues than an 85 nickel.

    Still...I just love the look of a nice coin album...
  • KriekKriek Posts: 1,044


    << <i>I have a Morgan set that i have several CC's in GSA holders. I feel the GSA holder is unique and wouldn't want to erase that time in the coins history. A PCGS slab doesn't have the history but it does represent a grade opinion and authenticity on a key issue. >>

    I quite fancy the GSA designation on a PCGS slab image

    image
    J.Kriek
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    Current Set: Morgan Hit List 40 VAM Set
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I quite fancy the GSA designation on a PCGS slab >>



    Kriek: I agree with you on the above!

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529


    << <i>I quite fancy the GSA designation on a PCGS slab >>



    The PCGS slab is nice but it's not a GSA holder. If i was to consider having them graded i'd go with the NGC cert that keeps everything intact. To me the GSA holder and packaging is an integral part of the history.

    Either way they won't fit in an album image

  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    crack it and enjoy touching it...
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭


    << <i>Help me understand the pros of a Dansco album. I don't think I'd ever want to put my coins in an open album like that, but maybe there's something I'm missingimage >>


    It's not really open, there are clear slides on both sides of the coins... makes glare a big problem for me when photographing the album... image


    << <i>Personally i would leave it as is and put an insert in the book.
    I have a Morgan set that i have several CC's in GSA holders. I feel the GSA holder is unique and wouldn't want to erase that time in the coins history. A PCGS slab doesn't have the history but it does represent a grade opinion and authenticity on a key issue. >>


    I agree with keeping GSAs in their holders... the rarity in those aren't really in the coin themselves, but in the holder... NGC all the way for grading GSAs...
    -George
    42/92
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If i was to consider having them graded i'd go with the NGC cert that keeps everything intact. To me the GSA holder and packaging is an integral part of the history. >>

    ss350camaro: I agree with you and would not crack out ANY coins from either an original Govt issued GSA holder or an existing PCGS GSA designated holder.

    I was suggesting that when I purchase (not have graded) any CC Morgans I give preference to those in PCGS GSA designated holders if they don't sell for large premiums over non-GSA versions of the same coin.

    By the way, I've got about a dozen 1882-84-CC Morgans in original GSA holders which I have not had graded and don't plan to. I like them just the way they are, without ugly blue tape around them telling me whether they are MS-62, 63, 64 or 65.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,776 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Regarding your Key date nickel: It depends on what the reverse looks like. The reverse on these is the weakness, generally. If it appears the coin might, on another day, grade out at AG03, I'd leave it alone. There is a pretty hefty price difference (percentage wise) between an AG and a GD.

    If's it is a solid GD04 (and your obverse makes it appear so... still gotta see that reverse though...) go ahead and complete the Dansco by cracking this one out.

    peacockcoins

  • paigowjohnnypaigowjohnny Posts: 4,257 ✭
    Good advice Braddick...and who better to know than you on the "high grade" slabs image
  • KlectorKidKlectorKid Posts: 3,723 ✭
    I'd crack a coin to put in an album but it wouldnt be a key date. Safer in the slab.
    image
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say crack for album.

    I have done it to:

    1901s quarter PCGS g04
    1932d quarter PCGS xf40
    1885cc dollar PCGS ms63

    crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    John
    You don't have a crackout dilemma; you have a Dansco dilemma.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    when you were bidding, did you intend to crack it out if you won?

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • CrackoutCrackout Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paigowjohnny, you should CRACK IT OUT and fill up that one missing hole. The other problem I see (because I collect "V" nickels as well) is that even though that baby is the grandaddy of that series, it is probably your worst looking coin. And it is going to reside a couple slots down from the 1883 no cents, which is probably your best looking coin. But I would rather have that 85 in the hole than an empty spot!
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's my take on the issue:

    -You want to complete a Dansco set
    -The coin is a real key (so obviously certified is good)
    -The coin isn't a liner... it's not a grade where if you resubmit it, it will likely change

    That said, I say crack the coin. Keep the label, and put the coin with its buddies. If you ever sell the coin, you can always have it regraded... it's not the type of coin that just loses a point at random like a high grade MS piece.

    CRACK IT!!!!!!!!!

    Jeremy
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep the coin in the slab. Get a dateless buff and glue a pic of your coin to it and put THAT in the dansco.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    Keep it in the slab...

    Dennis
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  • hamiltonjhhamiltonjh Posts: 1,140
    keep it slabbed and get a raw one for the book.
  • haletjhaletj Posts: 2,192 ✭
    What fun is it to have an almost complete set in a Dansco album, and then..oh...on the side a pcgs 1885. Just ridiculous.

    BTW all my full red Lincoln, Indians, and even my 1856 FE are coming out of the slab one of these days. Just taking time to make sure I'm okay financially that I won't need to sell them (or not too well off that I'll want to upgrade!). They're going into Whitman plastic holders which fit nicely in Eagle pages (20 per page). What a nice looking set of small cents that is going to be!
  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭

    no brainer---crack and complete your album. sounds as if you'll reap the most enjoyment this way.

    if dough's no object, once the set is complete, send all the coins in again for grading and recrack upon return--pulling all the sequentially numbered inserts and taping them below each coin in the album. the inserts will serve as the coin description and the sequential numbering virtually guarantees authenticity.
  • moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
    My experience with Dansco Albums has not been goodimage. Albums are nice to display coins, but my Indians, Buffalo's and V Nickels all started to tarnish while in Dansco Albums, so I sold all my raw coins and collect only coins in slabs. Have you looked at your coins closely in your Dansco Albums lately for any tarnish?

    Charlieimage
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "tarnish"?!?

    most collectors call it "toning", and a few of them even find it -desireable-

    image

    edited to add: what ever you call it, it's unlikely to affect a Lib nickel in Good.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • paigowjohnnypaigowjohnny Posts: 4,257 ✭


    << <i>Have you looked at your coins closely in your Dansco Albums lately for any tarnish? >>


    I can only hope for that evil tarnish...image
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Crack it out, if need be this coin can be graded/slabbed again. It's not the same as having a high end MS coin whose grade can vary from submission to submission. (Paste the cert into the album cover.)
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    Take images of it, print them to 1:1 scale, get some cardboard cut a 5 cent size circle. Glue the pics you just made to the cardboard circle, put that in your album.
    image
  • SDCollectorSDCollector Posts: 886 ✭✭


    << <i>I don't think I'd ever want to put my coins in an open album like that, but maybe there's something I'm missing >>


    Here's what your missing.

    Proud member of the Dansco type set fan club.

    Bill

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