New record price for a sample slab.

Conder101 · March 31, 2004 12:51AM

The record was shattered twice in one day. The first time by 20% and then a little later that price was topped by yet another 10%+ increase.

The new record holder
And this is not one of the rarest sample slabs.

rottnrog · March 31, 2004 12:53AM

I think the first one would have went higher had the label on the back not been bad!!

kieferscoins · March 31, 2004 12:54AM

Both those slabs are really neat. I had seen the MS-60 grade before with a Morgan sample but on the first auction the MS-63 Morgan slab sold for less than this one and wasn't even known to exist. I really got outbid and wish I had bid more to get these for my collection.

Cameron Kiefer

RiffRaff1967 · March 31, 2004 12:54AM

<< If you hold this slab at just the right angle under the right wavelength light source in an undiscovered dimension ( first you must throw the slab into the fireplace), you will see an inscription reading: "I found heaven at Kieffers Koins". >>

kieferscoins · March 31, 2004 12:56AM

The $180 sample:

If anyone has any like this pm me!

Cameron Kiefer

Russ · March 31, 2004 12:59AM

Over $200 for a $20 coin. Geez, you sample slab collectors are even weirder than I am.

Russ, NCNE

kieferscoins · March 31, 2004 1:03AM

Yep Russ, those two slabs hadn't been sold in years and they are much scarcer than any of your DCAM AH's. It's not the coin, but a combination of the slab, label and coin inside.

Cameron Kiefer

mgoodm3 · March 31, 2004 1:04AM

I recognized a couple people on the bid list there.

keets · March 31, 2004 1:09AM

..........boy, this is pitiful!!! a blatant case of buying the coin and not the holder if i've ever seen one.

al h.

kieferscoins · March 31, 2004 1:12AM

Lets not turn this into a sample slab bashing thread. I wanted to post this days ago but decided not to because so many people aren't open minded when it comes to rarity of a product like a certain sample slab, and only look at the coin inside - like they are trained to do.

Cameron Kiefer

rottnrog · March 31, 2004 1:15AM

<< Lets not turn this into a sample slab bashing thread. I wanted to post this days ago but decided not to because so many people aren't open minded when it comes to rarity of a product like a certain sample slab, and only look at the coin inside - like they are trained to do.

Cameron Kiefer >>

Cammie.. Let them slam!! I got slammed a lot back in 1970 for collecting error coins!!

Guess who got the last laugh on that one!!!!

Russ · March 31, 2004 1:15AM

<< lets not turn this into a sample slab bashing thread. >>

Sample slabs suck.

Russ, NCNE

kieferscoins · March 31, 2004 1:18AM

Thanks Russ.

Sell me all the ones you got.

Good analogy rottonrog. Same with people who collected banknotes, coins with mintmarks etc.

Cameron Kiefer

Conder101 · March 31, 2004 1:24AM

<< I wanted to post this days ago but decided not to because so many people aren't open minded when it comes to rarity of a product like a certain sample slab, >>

I considered that but decided it was important to demonstrate that some people are taking the hobby of sample slab collecting seriously and that it wasn't just you and me. Sample slabs ARE developing a following.

Dave99B · March 31, 2004 1:57AM

Collecting rare plastic?

Pathetic ......

Dave

bushmaster8 · March 31, 2004 1:59AM

<< Over $200 for a $20 coin. Geez, you sample slab collectors are even weirder than I am.

Russ, NCNE >>

Wow! Russ, you must be psychic! I got that coin at the Joliet, IL show 3/14. I saw it in the dealers case, (by pure luck, as I am not a Morgan man) and said,"How much for the sample?". $20 he replied, then said, "Well, wait a minute..." (OOHH Sheet, I thought...he's going to stick me)

He then consulted a greysheet and said" Yeah, ok, they list for $23, just wanted to make sure I wasn't overcharging you. Some poeple collect these samples."

"yes, they do." I agreed

"You will probably sell it for $40." he said.
I laughed and moved on.

I thought it might be a record price when the auction ended...thanks for confirming that!

Russ · March 31, 2004 2:21AM

Nice score!

Russ, NCNE

LAWMAN · March 31, 2004 2:54AM

I've watched the development of this slab collecting thing from its infancy. Hat's off to you Cameron and the others who have caught this bug.

I agree with Russ, you are even wierder than the rest of us numismatically oriented ones.

Of course, people in glass houses shouldn't [throw stones] [undress with the shades up] [skimp on Windex]?

bushmaster8 · March 31, 2004 3:06AM

One more thing:
As I left the show with my treasure, Guess who was standing outside in the cold smoking cig's, instead of looking for great deals inside?

MADMARTY!

I swear to God!

kieferscoins · March 31, 2004 3:58AM

Thats great.

Marty was outside probably telling everyone it has been picked clean and there is nothing good left.

Cameron Kiefer

relayer · March 31, 2004 4:24AM

Looks like the new game in town is to crack out sample slabs

joecool · March 31, 2004 4:49AM

Sample slab.......

IrishMike · March 31, 2004 4:57AM

I wonder if it would cross to a PCGS slab and be worth more?

Russ · March 31, 2004 5:20AM

<< I wonder if it would cross to a PCGS slab and be worth more? >>

It wouldn't cross. It's obviously overgraded.

Russ, NCNE

barberlover · March 31, 2004 6:11AM

Cameron,

I never understood why the grading services do sample slabs to begin with, but I understand even less why anyone would pay premiums for them, what is the allure ?

Les

kieferscoins · March 31, 2004 6:16AM

They want to promote a new label or slab and the easiest way to get the word out is to give out samples at shows to colelctors and dealers. Sometimes they make less than a 100, sometimes hundreds of them for a show. It's a small amount compared to mintages of coins and older samples from years ago can be really hard to find since many of them were not saved. Read my website for more info why.

Cameron Kiefer

ibzman350 · March 31, 2004 6:22AM

<< I recognized a couple people on the bid list there. >>

Guilty as charged !!!

Herb

Russ · March 31, 2004 6:22AM

<< why anyone would pay premiums for them, what is the allure ? >>

Why does anyone pay a premium for any collectible? Tiffany lamps, which I think are butt ugly, certainly didn't have an initial selling price of hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's the beauty of any hobby. Different strokes for different folks.

Russ, NCNE

bushmaster8 · March 31, 2004 9:25AM

Hey, David Hall (Blessed Be His Name) once thought that the idea of paying premiums for Cameo proof coinage from the 1950's was a way-out idea!

There are Pioneers in every field. Some go the way of Jamestown, Virginia and fade away; some go the way of Staten Island.

MadMarty · March 31, 2004 9:36AM

Hey Russ, send me your PR68DCAM Accent Hair Kennedy and I'll send you a ultra rare sample slab! Your getting the better end of the deal, Cammy said so!!!

oreville · April 3, 2004 2:19AM

It is true; no one including Cameron can say for sure that sample collecting is a fad or is going to be around forever.

Now, in my opinion, I think it will be around longer than we think.

I was the bidder that won the MS-63 NGC sample 1887 silver dollar for $180 plus. Of course, I am going to Ohio and clop rottnrog on the head for daring to bid against me when I vist my alma mater.

Error collectors like rottnrog should stay where they belong and stick with error slabs.

Let us sample collectors pick up all the samples before we get any more samplers to contend with!!!

Now, sample collecting is indeed a wierd form of collecting. It is certainly not abouit collecting coins. It is however a form of relaxation and therapy for the non-criminally insane. We all know who we are. We can all be proud of our propensity to share our insanity with others.

New record price for a sample slab.

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