This coin was cleaned at one time, and some of the color may not be from "natural causes." Still it's a 1796 Quarter, which is not easy to locate.
As for the "black eye" that is the usual wear pattern for this coin.
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Russ, they said "uncleaned" in the auction, but the coin was cleaned.....I am 99% sure. I agree with Bill. Still, it is a neat coin. Our customer was bidding on the item based on our recommendation, but it went WAY too high for what it is.
The only way that the toning on this coin is "original" is if it resulted from a reaction by the residue chemicals that were used to clean this piece. Natural, well circulated silver does not tone like this. Choice "real" toning is gray The toning has an AT look to me. Reactions from chemical residue almost never result in colors that are this bright.
BUT it's a 1796 quarter with VF sharpness, and as such it's still collectable.
Here's the one in my collection. It's now in a PCGS VF-25 holder.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
That is one sweet looking Draped Bust 1796. Nice eyes most I have seen in the past have that racoon look to them, but not yours. Nice coin. When for sale..............write.
Bill showed off a portion of his personal collection to me at a recent show... my drop hit the floor at all the pretty pieces!!! He has a GREAT eye for coins... the high-light for me, was his Flowing Hair Half-Dime in AU58... Most valuable coin I've ever held...
I was watching that one too (not to buy )--I'd agree with everyone that the toning is out there and almost certainly not original. Would I take it if someone gave it to me for free? Hmm...
If choosing between a new Toyota and a 1796 quarter, would I rather wait for a gray one like the other examples posted? Uh-huh.
Both Bill's and Barry's are outstanding coins. Wish I could go back in time and experience a story Bowers relates, buying one of the 1796 gems (some "regular", some "prooflike" - !) as Abe Kosoff did for $90-$125 (which was much $ at the time) from James McAllister, who was the end "user" of a large number of these, ultimately from the E.H.R. Green (a fascinating study all by himself - bizarre man with a regrettable, unfortunate life, and wealth almost beyond measure) estate - Kosoff recalled seeing perhaps around 100 gems total in McAllister's stash. Would this be called into question today, or have all such pieces since been absorbed into strong hands? You would think most such gems would have been slabbed like crazy, or at least many of them - I don't know. Anyway, Kosoff said he bought 5-6 of each, perhaps.
On the other hand, if I'd been around then, that would make me a very, very old man today - and most probably deadsville.
As such, I will have to be content to admire Bill's and Barry's pieces. Wow. They're both great.
In 1955, Bowers writes in his Dimes, Quarters and Half Dollars action guide - Aubrey Bebee showed Dave a gem, prooflike 1796 25¢ that he apologetically admitted paying - $200 for.
Collecting's changed a lot!
Comparitively, Bebee made huge headlines winning and setting a price record for one of the 1913 Lib nickels (in '67 I think) - for $46,000.
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As for the "black eye" that is the usual wear pattern for this coin.
<< <i>This coin was cleaned at one time, and some of the color may not be from "natural causes." >>
<< <i>This imparts a look of dignity and antiquity found only on the most original, uncleaned silver coins of the period. >>
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The only way that the toning on this coin is "original" is if it resulted from a reaction by the residue chemicals that were used to clean this piece. Natural, well circulated silver does not tone like this. Choice "real" toning is gray The toning has an AT look to me. Reactions from chemical residue almost never result in colors that are this bright.
BUT it's a 1796 quarter with VF sharpness, and as such it's still collectable.
Here's the one in my collection. It's now in a PCGS VF-25 holder.
most I have seen in the past have that racoon look to them, but
not yours. Nice coin. When for sale..............write.
Regards, Michael
great looking 1796, That is one of the nicest for the grade in that grade range that I have seen in a long while?
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This sort of color just doesn't work on this sort of coin...
Nice quarter, though.
<< <i>No doubt that coin was cleaned a while ago, but somehow the odd colors that have formed are sort of attractive - aren't they? >>
No... I like toned coins, but this one just seems... ugly.
That 1796 you ( and I ) saw at the Parsippany show was 15k. And I absolutely agree it was much nicer.
<< <i>Jeremy,
That 1796 you ( and I ) saw at the Parsippany show was 15k. And I absolutely agree it was much nicer. >>
Oh, whatever. The price isn't important... it's not like you bought it to show off
If it makes you happy, and Bruce still has the coin on Sunday, I'll make him an offer.
But something tells me its no longer in his inventory.
<< <i>If it makes you happy, and Bruce still has the coin on Sunday, I'll make him an offer.
But something tells me its no longer in his inventory. >>
Will you be beating my offer? Since I really like it, my $5 offer would probably be bumped to $250
Jeremy
If choosing between a new Toyota and a 1796 quarter, would I rather wait for a gray one like the other examples posted? Uh-huh.
On the other hand, if I'd been around then, that would make me a very, very old man today - and most probably deadsville.
As such, I will have to be content to admire Bill's and Barry's pieces. Wow. They're both great.
In 1955, Bowers writes in his Dimes, Quarters and Half Dollars action guide - Aubrey Bebee showed Dave a gem, prooflike 1796 25¢ that he apologetically admitted paying - $200 for.
Collecting's changed a lot!
Comparitively, Bebee made huge headlines winning and setting a price record for one of the 1913 Lib nickels (in '67 I think) - for $46,000.