What do you think the most Overrated series is?

JrGMan2004

Moderns? Morgans? AH Kennedies?

Russ

Lincoln cents.

Russ, NCNE

barberlover

Agree on Lincoln cents and I would also add to that early better date Washington quarters and any date 2 and a half dollar gold Indians in 64 or better and any proof buffalo nickels.

Les

Aethelred

I'd also say Lincolns.

kamehameha00

Lincolns.Buffalo Nickels and Mercury Dimes come in a close second.

braddick

I think of coins that languish in Dealers stock. Tons of coins that hardly anyone wants. It's not so much the Series, but I'd go with Morgans in common date, MS62'ish/MS63/ Commercial Uncs. Few collectors want these and each and every show I attend has them by the bushel load.

RGL

Lincolns and then, Morgans ...

DennisH

#1 -- Silver American Eagles.
#2 -- Statehood Quarters
#3 -- Modern commemoratives
#4 -- Susan B. Anthony dollars
#5 -- Modern Lincolns

caitlin

Buffalo Nickels? NO WAY

MODERNS have my vote.

JrGMan2004

I think for a series to be "Overrated" it needs to be pretty popular, with high prices that are unwarrented for the supply... more an inflation of price mostly due to demand, rather than any real rarity

mercurynut

Frankies then the cents.

Russ

<< <i>MODERNS have my vote. >>



"Moderns" is not a series.



<< <i>for a series to be "Overrated" it needs to be pretty popular, with high prices that are unwarrented for the supply... more an inflation of price mostly due to demand, rather than any real rarity >>



Which perfectly describes Lincoln cents.

Russ, NCNE

dollardude

1. Lincoln cents
2. Washington quarters
3. Early dollars (way too many people collect these)
4. Morgan dollars (way, way too many people collect these)
5. Kennedy halves

Russ

<< <i>5. Kennedy halves >>



Kennedy halves? They've been in the toilet for the last couple of years and are just now beginning to show some signs of life.

Russ, NCNE

barberlover

<< <i>
Buffalo Nickels? NO WAY

MODERNS have my vote. >>



What do you think of proof buffalo prices as compared to 3 years ago ?

Les

clw54

Anything that brings big money although there were millions minted.

JrGMan2004

#1 - High Grade Slabbed Modern Coinage...

That's the only thing I think is really overrated... and the Registry has contributed to it... oh, State Quarters too... so I guess that should be #2...

kamehameha00

DennisH,Susan B. Anthonys?

tjkillian

1. Original bust half dimes and dimes (F through AU58)
2. Original bust dollars (F through AU58)
3. MS-65+ Seated Quarters and Half dollars (Not proofs)
4. Pre-1834 gold, (VF-AU58)

Tom

Rob790

Washington statehood quarters or anything with mintages in the hundred of millions/year.

DHeath

Obviously moderns. There's no rational that justifies paying more than face value for pocket change. I'd much prefer none of you considered bothering yourselves with such numismatic trivia. Besides, they're all nearly perfect.

JrGMan2004

<< <i>1. Original bust half dimes and dimes (F through AU58) >>



I must disagree with you, at least on Half-Dimes. I think they are an undervalued series, with relatively few collectors compared to most series...

haletj

Why are you all saying Lincoln Cents? I don't understand at all?

Myqqy

While I understand the complaints that many have against modern series, I have to agree with the common vote that lincolns deserve the 1# overrated spot. They designs are boring, they're small, and have been around for a about a billion years!

mgoodm3

I think the Lincoln theory is good. The infamous $37,000 1940, the 1963 PR70, 1909S VDB's.

STEWARTBLAYNUMIS

All modern Proof 70 coins.More will be made and I will bet on it.

Stewart

Russ

<< <i>Why are you all saying Lincoln Cents? I don't understand at all? >>



Have you been watching the recent prices realized for coins in the series? New records are being set at every major auction.

Russ, NCNE

Russ

<< <i>All modern Proof 70 coins.More will be made and I will bet on it. >>



Yeah, Stewie. Like this Kennedy that just sold for $1400.

Of course, last year while all the modern bashers were saying exactly what you just said, the coin could have been had for $600. Want more examples? I've got a dozen from this month alone.

Russ, NCNE

haletj

Yes, and the prices are still next to nothing for what the rarest Morgans, Walkers, or Buffalos go for. Twenties gem red S Lincolns are just as rare as gem twenties Buffalos or Key date MS Morgans (at least that is what I thought?) and still less in price even with the huge increases.

Russ

haletj,

Relative values compared to other series is only one small part of the equation. The important factor is how rapidly that price acceleration has progressed. With Lincolns it has happened frighteningly fast. Lincolns were also minted in far larger quantities thus, as the prices realized skyrocket, so does the incentive to search a VERY large supply base.

Russ, NCNE

Stuart

Russ: I think that it's great if you can make high-grade coins (Modern or other), as long as you flip them quickly during this hot market. I however, would not recommend acquiring MS-70 modern coins as a long-term investment strategy.

Heck, if I had your (or others') knowledge and eye for picking top grade moderns, I'd buy them for 5 or 10 cents on the dollar, pay to get them slabbed, and would flip them ASAP for immediate profits.

If a collector wants to build that MS-70 perfect set, that's their own choice... but if they are doing it as an investment I feel it's avery high-risk strategy that they should only undertake with eyes wide open...

cladking

<< <i>

If a collector wants to build that MS-70 perfect set, that's their own choice... but if they are doing it as an investment I feel it's avery high-risk strategy that they should only undertake with eyes wide open... >>



These should be easy to avoid buying or selling since there are NO MS-70 regular issue moderns.

Russ

<< <i>Russ: I think that it's great if you can make high-grade coins (Modern or other) >>



Actually, I've never made a 70. I've made some pricey coins, but that's out of necessity to build my own set. I can't afford to buy them already slabbed.



<< <i>I however, would not recommend acquiring MS-70 modern coins as a long-term investment strategy. >>



Neither would I. But then, I wouldn't recommend any coins as a long-term investment strategy. Quick flip for a profit, maybe, but not as an investment.

The point of my response to Stewart was that NOBODY knows what's going to happen in the future. Last year, PR70DCAM Kennedys, with the exception of freshly graded new ones, were in the tank. Last year, many were saying exactly the same thing as Stewart. This year, the coins are on fire.

Russ, NCNE

haletj

Fair enough Russ, and okay, I agree some date/grade Lincoln Cents are totally overrated, but some date/grade Lincolns are still totally underrated, and I think it isn't fair to just say the whole series is overrated. It is a series in which a nice complete set can be put together for under $1000, or a nice XF set for a more modest amount, or a low end MS set or a high end MS set, or a set that starts circ pre 1934 but ends up BU. No other series has so many possibilities, as much history (imo), our greatest president (imo), and is just so natural and basic to collect!

haletj

And as for moderns... same thing, some date/grade moderns may or may not be overrated (pop-tops and stuff? I won't get into that since I don't know much about them) but in general nice looking gem coins could not be more underrated. Have you looked through lots of rolls and mint sets and seen the terrible coins in them? I have, it is not easy, and even with many being slabbed, the populations are still miniscule, and not only that but in my opinion, if you pick some date, say a 1973-s Lincoln, with a pop of around 100 in ms65 and up, much of that pop is OVERGRADED. I know because I keep trying to buy them and I return them! A true gem is downright tough and very underrated.

Stuart

<< <i>What do you think the most Overrated series is? >>



Whichever one is at that specific time being "pumped" by the coin promoters...

nccoin

Kennedy halves

Russ

<< <i>but some date/grade Lincolns are still totally underrated, and I think it isn't fair to just say the whole series is overrated. >>



haletj,

I have no doubt that there are coins within the series that are underrated, just as there are within any series. However, the nature of the original question itself is such that the reponse must include the entire series. That makes them no less collectible and, unlike some other series, they can be collected and completed by anyone of any means. That makes it an excellent choice for collectors from all walks of life.

In other words, my reponse was not a slam on Lincoln cents, but rather a commentary on the market in response to the question.

Russ, NCNE

dizzlecc

anything platinum.

Donovan

Any registery set.

Prometheus183

1) Lincolns
2) Morgans
3) Anything else I'm after beyond 1 and 2

mrearlygold

2. Original bust dollars (F through AU58)

4. Pre-1834 gold, (VF-AU58)

Tom >>



Early gold? Really? No way. I'm a net buyer of original material all day long. Especially varieties on ( ZZZZZZZZZ)

Bust $'s? Agree. They are overpriced.

TP

astrorat

Modern uber-graded pieces.

Lane

jcping

1. Morgan dollars
2. Lincoln cents

oldcameoproofsguy

I've heard this argument at least ten times since I've joined the forums. How can anyone say that a series is overrated just because prices are high for high pop pieces. Lincoln cents have stood the test of time. It has been enormously popular since I started collecting 30 years ago. The same can be said of Liberty head dimes, Washington quarters and especially Morgan dollars. These series always have been and always will be popular! The popularity drives prices up. The 1909-S VDB cent brings in a lofty price because there will always be a huge market for it. The 1914-D will always bring in a high price because there are ALWAYS so many people needing this key date.

I wouldn't jump to say that any series is overrated just because people are willing to pay lofty prices for high pop pieces. I can't see that all the sudden the fan base for Lincoln cents or Morgan dollars disappearing. If anything, as the interest in numismatics increases so will the number of people wanting the popular series. Watch for the price of the 1909-S VDB in MS-65 red to reach $20,000 before you know it. I think I'll go out any buy one now before that happens.

sumnom

State quarters.

dorkkarl

<< <i>What do you think the most Overrated series is? >>

in order they are:

1 morgan dollars
2 dmpl morgan dollars
3 toned morgan dollars
4 all other morgan dollars

K S

Bunker

1. Roosevelt Dimes

2. Statehood Quarters

3. Memorial Lincolns

4. Jefferson Nickels

LanLord

Seems like a few people need to calm down here. Everyone is stating their opinion on what's overrated, not calling your kids ugly or something.

These are simple opinions, if you don't agree, that's fine, don't get upset.

certifiedsilverdollar

I say Commemeratives (if you want to include them) followed by Moderns, and closely followed by cents: only cuz they were useless then and are useless today. What is a penny really for??? They commems cuz they are just a SCAM, the moderns because the government will put out anything to make a buck and AS MANY AS PEOPLE WILL BUY. Just an opinion. Definately NOT morgans. Look at the history of them. The recall to produce silver bars (government and public meltings), the hoards that have been discovered for people who wanted to invest in "hard assets" who did not trust our government or paper currency, the GSA hoard, the unacceptability of the silver dollar by the American's that has resulted in these antique Mint State coins, the silver certificates backed by the Morgans, the deletion and reinstatement of the silver dollar, etc, etc. The Morgans deserve to be as sought after as they are today. They are truly part of American History and you can hold them in your hand.

lathmach

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<< <i>1. Original bust half dimes and dimes (F through AU58) >>



I must disagree with you, at least on Half-Dimes. I think they are an undervalued series, with relatively few collectors compared to most series... >>



I agree with JrGMan. Look for the bust half dimes at shows and you'll see how few are available.

Ray