86 Topps Mike Schmidt PSA 10
purelyPSA
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I see we have a new entrant on the pop report. Anyone care to claim it?
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dsl ???
four sharp corners ???
marc
<< <i>I can only imagine what the 10 looks like >>
Probably looks like a nice 9. I mean is there really that much of a difference. I got a Psa 10
1981 Topps Phillies Team card. It looks just like all my Psa 9 Phillies I own from 81 to me.
Is there really that much difference?
I feel some criticism coming for saying this but it is the truth in my opinion.
aconte
Loves me some shiny!
No kidding....
I did not mean it as a Psa criticism. So get a grip pal. Whether it is Psa 10's or Sgc 98's I
meant the same thing. You need to relax and stop thinking every post an Sgc collector
makes is anti Psa. Stop feeling so insecure....
aconte
The PHILLIES in red on a black bordered top with a great Michael Jack home run shot is a fantastic card.
Robert
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
Wow cant wait to see it. Tough card to find in 10 centering parameters.
Tony- Your analogy of your 81 9's to 10's isnt really that fair of an observation
Oh yeah 86s are really cool imo.
Gator
Still, many people don't like the sets I am most fond of (1977-1981), I guess it depends on your personal exposure to the sets back then.
I don't think anyone ever believed me - but I always said that I had a stash of 1986 Topps Schmidt cards that I never had a chance to go through - and I know that they were all drop dead gorgeous. I went through the first 400 - 500 of the lot, and I submitted what I felt were the best five of the lot. I got one PSA 8, three PSA 9s and one PSA 10. I still need to find time to go through the rest of the lot - and I am pretty confident that at least a few of the 400-500 I went through would probably 9. I frankly have slightly different grading criteria than PSA. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. But on my own submissions, you will very rarely find any regular issue card with bad centering - especially if I am shooting for top grades. I'm pretty sure all five I submitted are all better than 55/45 each way. To the extent that 70/30 can make a PSA 9 - I'm sure I've got a bunch of them (1986 and many other years), but I will never submit them.
Some exceptions are made, though. I am quite happy with my 1981 OPC Schmidt PSA 9 o/c card. Very tough card in top grade - and anyone who has been through boxes of product realize how tough it can be. The edges and print seems to be superior than 1981 Topps - but centering seems to rarely even be within the 80/20 range. Oh well.
I am on Spring Break now, hanging out with my 3-month old. As soon as I make it back to Beantown, I will try and get the cards and have scans posted by Tuesday one week from today.
Cheers-
MS
aconte
Robert
Loth
1) Some people will get some nice returns on a handful of 9s.
2) A few big dealers and some smaller collectors will dive into tons of rack boxes and submit a bunch.
3) Some 9s and a few 10s will follow. The 9s will come down significantly in price, right up to the point where it's not worth digging through tons of racks to submit cards that won't sell for 12 bucks in a 9.
4) Submissions go dead for a long period of time. This will hold down the number of 10s received.
So I'm guessing the next few months will be the buying opportunity to get you 86s, especially if you can find a 10 or two that you need.
1986 Topps?
It will be very difficult to recoup their money on anything but 10s, which are near impossible.
I know your a very young gun, but you need to get a grip dude. 86's are indeed not slam dunks, but not much tougher than 87's. Purely PSA has some fine observations of how this will play out. There will be a handful of collectors that will sink a grand into this hype and then say "what did I just do???". With 1000 bones you can assemble an unreal raw set and grade what you like. Think about it guys, a minimum of SIXTY rack boxes will yield you some killer cards and more than likely in the neighborhood of 100-150 10's. Get your heads straight. Can I suggest some black coffee and a designated case cracker...maybe I should come on here and hype my 89 donruss venture..."They're the toughest, coolest cards of all time. You'll be lucky to turn a single 10...the sky is falling, line up and grab yours today..." Enjoy the 86's but don't panic, please.
dgf
<< <i>Carew,
No kidding....
I did not mean it as a Psa criticism. So get a grip pal. Whether it is Psa 10's or Sgc 98's I
meant the same thing. You need to relax and stop thinking every post an Sgc collector
makes is anti Psa. Stop feeling so insecure....
aconte >>
If the statement was from a non-SGC cheerleader I would believe you. One look at the SGC boards and there is no
doubt about your agenda. If your point was that are subtle differences between the top 2 grades of any grading company than I would agree, but you fail to make that distinction and you should.
Otherwise its just more of the same.
Loves me some shiny!
I understand what your saying but 60 rack boxes. Times that by your time what its worth to you then scratch your head again then think is it really worth it. Storage, supplies, yadayada. Might as well by the tens off ebay.
Gator
PS Keep it up buddy!
<< <i>but you fail to make that distinction and you should >>
Why should I have to? I'll say what I want. No one else makes that distinction. At the time of
my post there was no discussion about g.c. It was about 86 Topps and the gem mint grade.
If I was out to be critical of Psa while promoting Sgc I would of continued to mention that I crossed
over all my 81 Topps Phillies to Sgc holders. I would of continued to say that some of gator05's -
the 81 Guru best cards reside in Sgc holders. I would of continued to say that I see no difference
in the Sgc 98 Phillies checklist than my Sgc 96 cards. But that wasn't my point. My point was
unless you really, really, really look at a card most mint cards look the same as gem mint cards
to me. That was response to 1420. I could of added that if you took six of the best mint 9's
86 Schmidt's and the Psa 10 and covered all the grades I bet to most it would be tough to pick
the gem mint one. But you wanted to make it a I'm attacking Psa.
I have no agenda here. But you can read my latest response to Basilone on the Sgc boards
for my "agenda."
I like some of the people here and the attacks tire me here. Look at my posts. Do you see me
attacking here. I've stayed off all those threads that have been critical of delivery, Superior, Goodwin,
mickeyc, overgrades, the Rose, Wiwag, etc. But you think I bring trouble here....
Well at least I bring something to the table here my friend....
By the way anyone know where Buckwheat's post looking for answers from Joe O. on the 63
Rose rookie is?
aconte
I do not think Tony (Aconte) has an agenda....is he a pretty fair guy. He is probably the most well respected/liked SGC collector on these boards.
Thanks man. Sorry for jumping on you on the Sgc board. I know you got strong opinions of preferences
and at the same time were messing around. I sent you a pm response.
Tony
You don't believe they're any tougher than I do. I have racks and vending and if they're there I'll find 'em...the graders sometimes miss 'em--as you know--and sometimes fix their boo-boos. Point is this...we have a guy ready to call this the toughest set in history. It's his right but I just hate hysterics. Sometimes I think you confuse the quality of cards you submit and offer for sale with PSA 9's and 10's. Those are two completely different animals. Here's a newsflash...77's AND 81's are simple to get 8's and 9's on. To get them like ours takes an unbelieveable amount of work, but who really is as insane as we are. The fact that you mention "loupe" and "86 topps" in the same breath is proof of that fact. You have--and will have more soon--the best 86's the hobby has seen to date, but with a little investment and some enlightened work they CAN be had without paying 200 bucks for a single card. Don't confuse the cards you scrutinize with the massive lots that will follow when people see you raking in the dough...and they WILL follow.
dgf
Maybe I can shoot enough holes in PSA to earn your respect some day.
The SGC cheerleaaders are well known, I am not stating anything new here folks.
Loves me some shiny!
<< <i>maybe I should come on here and hype my 89 donruss venture >>
Exactly! I agree with dgf on this topic. Have fun, but remember, it's 1986 Topps we are talking about. And, before long, dsl, joe t, and 4 sharp will have tons of 10's from this set anyway, for those that want them.
Frazier-Relax man I'm just givin you a little. 89 donruss would be more of a topic. Thats just the case of so many shades of purple they cant figure out which one is correct.
Better yet I like anything thats not easy in the 80's that way you wont see dsl,4 sharp going crazy
Hey schmidty flat out nice pull.
Gator
<< <i>It will be very difficult to recoup their money on anything but 10s, which are near impossible. >>
I dunno ... I've done very well selling 9s in the past, and I've even made a little money on some PSA 8s. You just have to pay attention to the pop report and player collector trends (taking advantage of $5 specials helps too
Robert
or Nolan Ryan?
or other bigger star?
Robert
<< <i>Probably close to what those rare Beenie Babies sold for years ago. >>
67standup:
Why must you be such a killjoy? I honestly do not care what the card is worth - but there are obviously a ton of collectors on this board who are interested in 1986 Topps PSA 10 cards. Let us be - we're not bothering you, and we're having fun talking about our interests. Yes, I know that Schmidt cards are not as rare as some of the issues you collect. But I am sure that my Niagra Baking Knabe is much rarer than some of the cards from sets you are putting together. I honestly don't care - and I wish you the best of luck with your pursuits. Why trash talk those of us interested in this issue?
MS
And MS ....WOW A PSA 10. Too bad you didnt buy it on ebay for 250.00 it would spur intrest for others to submitt.
James
<< <i>All this hype over a gem mint 1986 card; millions produced only 18 years ago. There should oodles of raw versions that should grade a 10. Go spend your $ for such cards and leave true vintage and rarities for us collectors. >>
No offense but statements like this are pretty pig headed. You speak as if ONLY vintage guys are REAL collectors. Putting down somebody else's collection to make yourself feel better is bad for the hobby.
Sounds good I admit I have been slacking on my cards as of late. More intrest in my car. I need to make a small submission.
And MS could we see the card? I dont doubt you have it I just want to see it and get an idea of what a 10 looks like.
James
<< <i>And MS could we see the card? I dont doubt you have it I just want to see it and get an idea of what a 10 looks like. >>
James,
Here's my PSA 10 Carew. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get the Schmidt yet!
JEB.
<< <i>And MS could we see the card? I dont doubt you have it I just want to see it and get an idea of what a 10 looks like.
James >>
James:
As soon as I return to Beantown, I will pick up my submission and hopefully be able to review it over Tuesday/Wednesday of next week. I'll make a concerted effort to get a scan online ASAP. I'll perhaps forge a little contest on this forum to see if I can show all five cards - and see if anyone can pick up the PSA 8 and the PSA 10 from the three PSA 9s.