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Grading George V 50 cent pieces

How would you grade the following 50 cent piece?

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The only TPG George V 50 cent piece I have to use as a reference is this former ICCS AU-50:

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The seller, who knows much mor about grading than I do, calls the former coin EF. I thought it looked more like a VF coin, but it does have a decent amount of luster on it and the crown on the reverse shows almost no wear.

Opinions?
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  • JamminJJamminJ Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    If you only collect oddball RCM packaging the grade really doesn't matter.image

    Seriously, to me it looks like a VF/XF liner.

    -JamminJ
  • I was going VF.
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  • No doubt VF-20
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first coin looks like a VF to me. VF25-30, perhaps, but for EF, I would want a little more detail.

    An AU50 grade on the second one looks dead-on accurate to me.

    Maybe the seller knows what he's talking about and the first coin is EF, but not in my book- not quite.

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  • The AU-50, if there is 8 beads in the band (it's hard to tell from the scan) I'd say, by the scan it's an EF at best.
  • According to Charlton an EF:

    Eyebrow worn. Band of crown slightly worn near centre but all eight pearls showing. Trace of war on tip of moustache and side whiskers. All six pearls down centre of crown clearly defined.



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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you only collect oddball RCM packaging the grade really doesn't matter.image

    Seriously, to me it looks like a VF/XF liner.

    -JamminJ >>



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    What really matters to me is whether I like the coin. If I do, I keep it. If I don't, it goes back (no matter the technical grade).
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    EF40 , or VF35 on a bad day. VF technical.
    Dimitri



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  • VF25, VF30 on a good day
  • LloydLloyd Posts: 887
    The central leaves on the reverse have certainly taken too much of a squishing for EF.

    And it's hard to tell but the eyebrow looks worn - or is that jus the pic? Obviously the pearls too.

    From here it looks like a real textbook GVF

    L

    Edited to upgrade to GVF.... does this make it a US XF?
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    I rate it image
    Bill

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    VF (too much wear to be an EF)
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1918 mostlikely does not make EF for reasons that have been expressed. If there is alot of original lustre and the weakness is attributable to the strike and not wear, I could be persuaded to grade the coin higher.

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