I was going to start a thread on this coin asking when is to much to much? I like toning but this one is just too much. Looks like the Easter eggs I use to color as a kid when you would dunk the eggs in the color floating on the water trying to swirl the egg around to pick up as much color as possible. I do not like this coin AT or NT.
I agree that the design is simply amazing but when I look at it, a little warning flashes in my head. I am sure that in person it looks different as the colors seemed to have been "adjusted".
I viewed the Oregon in person, yesterday. While the color is not as florescent as in the catalog or images posted, it IS as beautiful AND, in my opinion, at least, unquestionably original.
I predict that it will bring a five figure price (as in more than $9999.99) - if it does not, I will be buying it.
I, too, have seen the coin in person at the Portland show. As Feldini said, the coin is every bit as attractive as the catalog and online images make it out to be. I won't vouch for its technical grade, because it is irrelevant compared to the coin's overall eye appeal. And, it will be the eye appeal that will drive the coin's pricing.
As for its technical grade, I will say that the coin is very lustrous with very clean surfaces. The coin certainly merits technical consideration for SUPERB GEM status.
I would like to take this opportunity to caution the membership against micro-grading. For those who don't know, micro-grading is the practice of looking at a single aspect of a coin and then assessing a grade based solely on that single aspect. A coin's grade is in practice a composite grade of FOUR factors: luster, eye appeal, marks and strike.
I also would like to caution against the practice of trying to definitively assert a grade off an image; there's just no real chance of 100% faithfully capturing a 3D object into a 2D object.
And, those who try to micro-grade off a 2D image is really trying to teach himself the absolute wrong way to grade.
Guess I'm in the minority on this one as I think it is not only beautiful, but natural as well. It certainly helps it's credibility that Mike had it at one time.
I would like to take this opportunity to caution the membership against micro-grading. For those who don't know, micro-grading is the practice of looking at a single aspect of a coin and then assessing a grade based solely on that single aspect.
EVP,
Thank you for the warning. I tend to be guilty of this myself, but in a slightly different way. Instead of grading from one of the four aspects, I have a tendency to ignore one of the four (usually luster, sometimes strike), usually the one that is the greatest liability. My grades tend to get fudged upward.
I was at Santa Clara today and saw this piece. The colors are that vivid, from any angle. gorgeous. I thought the lady said the bidding was at 20K this afternoon.
Astounding ... I don't even collect Commems, as a rule, but I do have a nice slabbed MS-66 Oregon because I love the Frasers' design so. Texas is perhaps my second favorite.
I don't like it and I wouldn't be too keen to pay a premium (perhaps 'premium' is an understatement when we are talking about $18,000) for NT that looks like AT.
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Russ, NCNE
I'd like to see it in person. It sure looks AT. Maybe the photo is tweaked?
<< <i>Tonecoin2003? >>
doh!
Russ, NCNE
If I sent it in I would get a bb.
Minimum Bid $5,200.00
Will PCGS buy the coin back?
dragon
<< <i>One more thing that coin looks very much like the one Mike DeFalco had on his site. >>
This one? Definitely the same coin
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
<< <i>This one? Definitely the same coin >>
In DeFalco's image the colors look much more natural.
Russ, NCNE
I predict that it will bring a five figure price (as in more than $9999.99) - if it does not, I will be buying it.
A definite positive not being as florescent as pic. I guess you've sinched a price > $9999.99
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As for its technical grade, I will say that the coin is very lustrous with very clean surfaces. The coin certainly merits technical consideration for SUPERB GEM status.
I would like to take this opportunity to caution the membership against micro-grading. For those who don't know, micro-grading is the practice of looking at a single aspect of a coin and then assessing a grade based solely on that single aspect. A coin's grade is in practice a composite grade of FOUR factors: luster, eye appeal, marks and strike.
I also would like to caution against the practice of trying to definitively assert a grade off an image; there's just no real chance of 100% faithfully capturing a 3D object into a 2D object.
And, those who try to micro-grade off a 2D image is really trying to teach himself the absolute wrong way to grade.
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com
Looking for PCGS AU58 Washington's, 32-63.
<< <i>I predict that it will bring a five figure price (as in more than $9999.99) >>
I predict $18,000.
Russ, NCNE
EVP,
Thank you for the warning. I tend to be guilty of this myself, but in a slightly different way. Instead of grading from one of the four aspects, I have a tendency to ignore one of the four (usually luster, sometimes strike), usually the one that is the greatest liability. My grades tend to get fudged upward.
Robert
Rainbow Stars
good update, Mr. Feldini......
Gosh darn it, it's Feld-o-lini you guys (and gals). Saint Feldolini.
Clankeye
<< <i>One more thing that coin looks very much like the one Mike DeFalco had on his site. >>
Yup, and I know people who've known this coin for years and it has NOT changed it's color. Therefore, one could conclude it is original color.
Bill Jones and Coinguy have it correct....
jom
<< <i>I thought the lady said the bidding was at 20K this afternoon. >>
Their site currently shows zero bids.
Russ, NCNE
Then based on how much we have contributed, we will be given time shares
to actually hold the coin. Based upon such number of shares, will be each persons
portion of the money, when the coin is resold for a gazillion dollars.
Camelot
The Ludlow Brilliant Collection (1938-64)
Sorry,
Union
I guess my estimate of $18,000 was a little low.
Russ, NCNE
Wondercoin
Clankeye