Need serious help from SGC experts
goodriddance189
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well my search for a PSA 7 Jacques Plante rookie is finally over. after a year of looking with no success, a 10 minute conversation with Mike Wentz and i found both a PSA 7 and an SGC 84. say what you want about MW, but he is a classy dealer with a great inventory, anti PSA sentiments aside. only problem is, the SGC card is beautiful (aside from centering) and the PSA card is a dog. i obviously need a PSA card for my registry, and im asking the experts here whether you think it would cross. i really dont want the PSA 7, but on the other hand i dont want to wait months for another one to come up. please let me know if you think the SGC 84 has an accurate chance of crossing to a PSA 7. here are the scans-
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damn picture wont show up, can anyone host the pics for me?
<< <i>vargha and sandlot, thanks.
damn picture wont show up, can anyone host the pics for me? >>
e-mail me the pics and i'll post them.
edited to say: and congrats on finally getting this one behind ya
The danger is not the card receiving a PSA 7 OC. The danger is if PSA refuses to encapsulate the card. If that happens you are out a boatload of money.
Here's the issue to be very careful with. As you know, SGC has no qualifiers. The Tallboys are prone to getting ST qualifiers for even miniscule wax strains on the back. I have had discussions with PSA that the standard for a NM card says a minor stain is within the guidelines...but very light wax stains come back with qualified grades all the time. On this issue, they either need to change the standards or grade to the standards.
Regards,
Alan
Send me an email if you are still looking
for a nicely centered messier rookie and
1969-70 opc Plante psa 8.
marc
The plante is an 8 nq.
himnit@safeplace.net
<< <i>You should make the deal contingent on the card successfully crossing over to a PSA holder.
Oh yeah.........I'm sure junior will go for that
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I didn't mean that the seller should guarantee the SGC card would cross to its equivalent PSA grade.
Rather, the guarantee should be that the card will go into a PSA holder, regardless of grade. Otherwise the buyer is taking too great a chance.
It is not unreasonable for a dealer to stand behind his product.
<< <i>Calling the PSA 7 "ugly" is being too nice. >>
This card having a red border makes it tough. I must admit...this Plante card is one of the best, if not the best hockey card ever.
mho
john
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Save your money for a legitimate 7.
<< <i>i would save my money and buy a nice psa or sgc 8 when one becomes avaiable. why settle for second best on it? one will become available i am sure.
mho
john >>
only problem is, there are only 7 PSA 8's, and i can account for at least 4 in private collections. ok-cards has one, but i believe he wants to sell his set complete, and is asking $8000. i dont have that kind of money. of course, i could save up for one, but saving $1000+ and actually keeping it around until a PSA 7 comes up would be damned near impossible for me
88. Here is one that just sold on ebay and is only centered a little better. But the corners are not as
nice and the red section of the card is much worse. It really depends on what you want. If
you want the best then you want a nm/mt card or mint card.
Here's the Psa that just closed. Another below average 7?
Plante
aconte
'55's are notorious for fading, much worse than other Parkies from the '50's. are they graded accurately according to PSA's grading standards? yes. are they graded accurately according to popular hobby opinion (placing emphasis on fading)? i would say no.
I hear you and agree 110% .... my friend aconte can relate too
I can honestly say that the three cards that I have always wanted I waited to purchase until a "no doubt about it" example came up. It seems that you are torn between two cards and feeling like a fool so I would wait.
Besides, one will probably surface amongst this thread
<< <i>I ould buy the sgc and only cross it, I wouldn't crack it out. If it doesn't cross to psa then you still have a nice card in a anice holder >>
yeah, thats what i was planning on doing. i have no problem with SGC cards at all, in fact i think they're just as good as PSA save for centering. but if i dropped 4 figures on a card, i would at least like to get recognition in the Registry. if it didnt cross, id be out of luck. if i really wanted a filler card for my set, i could submit one of the 4 i have, but i dont want a PSA 3 or 4 messing up my GPA
Good luck on whatever you decide.
What do you think of the Sgc card? I like it but then again I may not be able to see clearly with
blinders on...
aconte
Congrats. The first step toward rehabilitation is admission
Loves me some shiny!
<< <i>goodrid,
Good luck on whatever you decide.
What do you think of the Sgc card? I like it but then again I may not be able to see clearly with
blinders on...
aconte >>
i love it. i usually place more emphasis on centering, but for this set i care much more about fading/color. the SGC is the nicest graded 7 ive seen from any grading company. i might just say the hell with it and sell my Vette (i quit racing and working on cars) and just buy this set.
If rehab means I'd accept the Psa Plante over the Sgc one like many of the guys here then I'll
stay the way I am. Also, since I don't want to upset 1954 I'll leave it at that. Funny comment
though.
aconte
edit - spelling error
Don't sell the vette.
who is selling this card if you don't mind me asking?
aconte
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