Does this 1837 half on Ebay look odd to you?

lclugza

Link

airplanenut

That was beaten hard with the ugly stick...

hookedoncoins

<< <i>That was beaten hard with the ugly stick... >>



Couldn't have said it better myself .

lordmarcovan

Yeah, what he said pretty much covers it.

Odd? Not really, no.

Ugly? Yep!

sinin1

it looks like a fake - cast copy


obverse has a couple chopmark like holes where they should not be
reverse should have some sign of 50 CENTS under the eagle
wear on reverse is very odd, unless coin is bent

obverse has been cleaned/scratched

probably not even silver

Nysoto

Struck counterfeit. The eagle's left wing looks like it was tacked on! There are quite a few bogus 1837 halves, this one should be worth $10 max.

LanLord

I like the blonde hair with the supersized reverse image, it just adds something!

nepbrs44

Looks a bit odd.........Stay away even so if you are looking for a coin to fill a whole you can still find a good piece for $30-40 out there.

Conder101

Yes it is a counterfeit. As Nysoto mentioned the eagles left wing where it joins the body is much to narrow, and on the obverse the layout of the stars are wrong. On the genuine 1837's the stars were smaller and more spread out. the lowest one on the right hand side should be down at the 5:00 position between the date and the hair curl.

I checked and this one is not in the Davignon book on counterfeit bust halves. I've added it to my watch list. Should be interesting to see what it goes for.

DrWho

Note this one the feedback from others posting. Notice the star position, previously noted. FYI.

dorkkarl

dudes, it's a quarter, not a half.

K S

MrEureka

dudes, it's a quarter, not a half.

Bingo! Real, too.

Conder101

Well that's embarrassing.

abuell

It's just like Karl to screw up a perfectly good thread by pointing something like that out!

dorkkarl

bwuahahahahaha!

K S

sinin1

I don't buy the its a quarter crap - this seller has coins before and should be able to see what it was by its size - I asked the seller a question and got the following response:

The diameter is approximately 1 1/4 inches


----- Original Message -----
From: <sinin1@netzero.com>
To: <sjfstewart@msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:49 PM
Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2225800911


> what is the diameter of this coin?
> --------------------
>
>
> Question from: sixin1-netzero.com
> Title of item: * 1837 TURBAN HEAD HALF DOLLAR * NR
> Seller: alkyholler
> Starts: Feb-14-04 13:55:06 PST
> Ends: Feb-21-04 13:55:06 PST





A quarter would be 24.3 mm in daimeter (just under an inch)
A half dollar would be 30 mm in diameter (about 1 1/4 inch)




so what denomination is it?

dorkkarl

it's definitely a quarter.

now, it may be a flattened quarter (texas coin), but it definitely started life out as a quarter.

K S

dorkkarl

btw, it's a browning 2, the most common variety for 1837.

K S

mgoodm3

Looks like it had an unfortunate belt-sander accident.

sinin1

so back in the 1800's , an old quarter could be hammered/flattened and become the diameter of a half dollar?

that sounds like a quick way to double your money



MrEureka (mr1794), if you remain high bidder and win this auction, let us know what you get

snapmohr

I am definately by no means an expert here but I find it oddly curious that the only thing on this coin that is conveniently legible is the date yet the rest of it as you put it has been beaten with an ugly stick and the coin is humorously located in Bankrupt City OH LOL
the blonde observer
snapmohr

dorkkarl

hey sinin1, i actually don't think it's flattened. i think the seller gave you an erroneous diameter. he probably looked it up in the redbook or something. i honestly think the seller's just loopy.

K S

lclugza

Hey, he also has an 1837 quarter for sale that looks EXACTLY like that half dollar! And the half dollar auction is still going.

Link

snapmohr

Isn't that amazing I can't wait to see his 1837 nickel LOL
Oh! and did you notice that his location changed from Bankrupt City to Welfare-Ville!!!

This guy kills me LOL
snapmohr

roadrunner

I haven't heard anyone call a "bust" coin a turban head since the 1960's or early 1970's. Wonder what reference book the seller is still using. I also like the BANKRUPT CITY location.

If this had been a RE half, the obv design was not appropriate and would be an obvious fake. Either that or you'd have a one off pattern worth at least a bundle of "ugly sticks."

roadrunner

dorkkarl

hey roadrunner, most bhnc's call 'em turban heads. frequently, we call draped bust & flowing hair halves "pre-turbs".

K S