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Counterfeit or bargain?

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It's in China, which makes me very, very suspicious. It's been up for several days without attracting any bids with an opening which is a small fraction of the Krause value. During that time I have seem some knowledgeable people bid on other coins. The details don't seem as crisp as they should be.

On the other hand, the seller says it weighs 27g with a diameter of 38.6mm. The nominal weight of a genuine trade dollar is 27.22g and the diameter is 38.6mm. None of the counterfeits I have seen in person have legitimate weights, and most have the wrong diameter as well. When I have asked the seller about the specifications on other suspicious ¥1 and trade dollar coins they have either failed to answer, or given me numbers that were way off.

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Roy


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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't be lured by the prospect of a "bargain".
    All glory is fleeting.
  • newsmannewsman Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭
    It doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. There are all sorts of alarm bells here. image
  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    It may be a bargain, but most likely it's too good to be true.
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    Obscurum per obscurius
  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    Josh no like. Bad medicine.......
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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    Given my success level with the typical ebay seller, I'd say the odds of getting a bargain are pretty slim.
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • I would never, ever send money to China. Simple as that.

    Lloyd
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    The last time I sent money there it was for a BU 1912 shilling for a low price on ebay. What I got instead was a common 1918 shilling with thousands of hairlines - absolute rubbish. The seller offered to make the exchange. Given the junk I did get, I said "no exchange, refund please." I got my money back even before the coin had arrived at the seller's location.
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • I was hoping someone would come up with a strong reason to ignore my suspicions, but . . . imageimage
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Counterfeits can be so perfect that you might not be able to tell even if it's in your hand. That's the level of the game these days.

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  • hookedoncoinshookedoncoins Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I agree with lloyd that I would never send my money to china. Way too many counterfeits being pumped out these days.

    Caveat Empter!
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    At the very least the picture suggests harsh cleaning.
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
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