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Your 2¢ on my 2¢- *Grade Posted*

I am thinking about sending this coin in for grading. It is a 1870 2¢ coin that was left to me by my grandfather. I am somewhat new to coin collecting and don't feel confident with my grading abilities. To me this seems about MS-65.
It has lots of color and almost has a proof look to it. Would you say it was red/brown or red?
There is a slight rim dent above GOD on the obverse, would this prevent a decent grade?
Thanks for your opinion.
John Huber
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi,

    Unfortunately, the picture is way too dark to come to a grade.

    Jeremy

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  • hookedoncoinshookedoncoins Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    I'm by far an expert on these, but I would say that it would probably be somewhere around MS63/64BN (assuming the luster is there), but like Jeremey said, the picture is too dark to get an accurate grade. The strike looks very strong on this one.
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
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    Wow, Can you believe this is the same coin? Photoshopped for brightness and contrast.
  • Low mint state..62/63 but the photo is much too dark.
  • VicPortlandVicPortland Posts: 285 ✭✭✭
    Pictures are dark but it looks like a 64 to me
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
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    I admit to takeing a bit of artist license with adjust color to give it a copper coin look.
    Makes the first photoshop job look bad.
  • Nice looking coin....here it is with the gamma doubled to lighten it up a bit.
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  • I am by no means a grading expert but, I do like to look at nice specimens - thank you for the opp.
    I took both of the photos and lightened them a bit and then did a photo-negative.
    (The negative images really make the details stand out - even when lighting is poor).
    There is a bit of something going on with "In God" portion of the streamer and letters but, I also noticed that there is something going on in the rim area just above the "In God" area as well. I cannot make out what it is but it appears to be inherent to the coin.
    On the obverse it sure looks like there is a problem with that O in "OF"...and there appear to be a few tiny (very tiny) areas of dirt or corrosion (perhaps they would appear as a mild green or blue).
    As for grade, again the photos are too dark to get a true sense of the coin's natural character. Nice specimen though...very nice. It would be worth a slab at any rate just to protect it.
    All IMHO

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    Sorry, I forgot to include the links to the images image

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    Hopefully these images work... they are just a bit lighter than I expected them to be.
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  • Wow, you guys did a nice job with the photoshop! It looks more like the actual coin. Should I bother posting a better picture?
    Looks like it might be worth submitting.
    Thanks for the help all!
    John
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  • This isn't a coin grading thread anymore. Its a how to photoshop a coin thread .imageimage

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  • sadysta1sadysta1 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    Nice!! Is it a proof?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    John,

    Nice coin. Want to sell it? PM me if you do.

    Russ, NCNE
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65BN.

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Based upon the images, my guess would be that the coin is a Proof and not a business strike.
  • I'm with Keets -- this coin is right up there in MS and probably BN as well. Nice coin. Very nice.
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Forget the grade- get it in plastic at least to protect it. You don't want anything to happen to such a special coin! It's a really
    nice example of a two center! image

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    For comparison purposes, here are images of a PCGS MS64RB. While not all coins are struck the same in terms of detail, this coin does not show the strike detail of the one which is the subject of this thread.

    That is a large part of the reason that I suspect the subject coin is a Proof and not a business strike. Another consideration is that the coin at least appears to be from the dies used to strike Proofs.

    It would clearly be a MUCH easier call in person, for if the coin is a Proof, the mirror surfaces, squared edge, etc. will be readily apparent/obvious in person.

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  • I can't thank all of you enough for the info. Seeing the comparison to a slabbed coin really helps! I had slight feelings that it could be proof as the fields are just shiny compared with the raised portions. And the edges are very square.
    I may be selling it at some point, but for now know it is going to PCGS.

    I created a web site of some of the coins I have from my grandfather. That way I can still check them out, and keep them at the bank. Feel free to take a look at my other coins from the link below. Some tabs are not functional, but many are. None of the coins are in slabs. I am planning to send in the 2¢ and 2 1883 one dollar gold pieces. These two are so nice it is scary. Both show a weak Liberty in the headband, but are otherwise nice. I might send in the 3 dollar gold coin or a 1791 Washington piece. Anyone have any other picks let me know.

    All of the images I have of the coins I did using a scanner. I was simply able to get more uniform images than with my camera. Gold and silver work well, but copper has limitations. Also bear in mind I do all my computer work on a Mac, which has different gamma than a PC. I have not tested this site on a PC so crank up the brightness if you need to.image
    Thanks again for the help!
    John

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  • John,When you get it back next winter let us know how it did.image
  • Well I had promised to update this old thread with the result when I got it in. I also fixed the old images on my site so let me know how they look.
    Thanks again for all the info from everyone!

    PR63RB

    I bet it would have been a 65 if not for the rim dent at 11:00.
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    I added the 3 other scores I got to the gold and Washington cent on my site as well.
    Thanks, John
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