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1967 Canadian centennial coins...Difference between proof, specimen,ms...Please 'splain to me!

XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
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I'd like to put together a nice set of these. What do you think would be the best way to do this?

Should I keep buying whole RCM sets until I get a good one, or should I hunt down PQ individual pieces?

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  • hookedoncoinshookedoncoins Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    This was one of the first darkside endeavers, from when I was "getting my feet wet." I became interested in them after winning a incredibly pristine proof-like '67 half in a giveaway from Shimmy (does he still post here?). You are free to persue the set as you wish, but I looked for each coin individually. By doing so (scouring eBay and coin shows) I created a top-notch set. It was harder than I thought to find truly GEMs although there are many out there.

    Just my thoughts on the matter.

    -Jarrett Roberts
  • canadiancoinguycanadiancoinguy Posts: 405
    Specimen sets w/ a S$1-sized medallion go for about $30, and have nice coins, often with cameos. PL sets are cheaper, but the quality is generally decent and will usually do.
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  • LuvdawgsLuvdawgs Posts: 1,512 ✭
    Hookedoncoins: Yes, Shimmy does post here occasionally, but hasn't had as much time to do so since starting his own company.
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  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928 ✭
    I am putting together Canadian PL sets from the years 1960 through 67.

    I am buying each piece individually, ICCS graded 64-65 Heavy Cameo and even a few Utra Heavy Cameos.

    ICCS helps out because my source for these coins is entirely the internet. I then remove the coins from the holders and am placing them in Wayte Raymond boards I found for Canadian year sets.

    I find this to be very satifsfying so far. The coins are beautiful, and heavy cameo examples of some of the dates are harder to find than you might think.

    Clankeye
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  • oldshepoldshep Posts: 3,240 ✭
    These sets can be beautiful in the original package - some very nice toning.
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    They really look awesome!


    You suck!





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  • elvernoelverno Posts: 1,068 ✭
    This set is one after my own heart. My mother's side of the family comes from British Columbia and in the summer of '67 my uncle was buying rolls of all the coins (he has dozens of rolls of each) and he broke open one of each and made sets for all his nieces and his nephew. I then traded my sisters ready money for their sets ( image ) and put all three sets in a plastic box separated by cotton balls. My own private toning kit! image

    I'll dig them out and photograph them this weekend. Another uncle gave me a 1966 silver dollar the year before and told me not to use it because the beads were different than the regular 1966 dollars. I don't actually think he gave me the rare variety but he thought he did... image

    And nope, none of 'em are for sale. One set goes to my first grandchild on their 5th birthday, and so forth...

    Vern
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    Are there three varieties of these coins...MS, specimen, and proof?
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    And prooflike if just a type of MS?
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928 ✭
    They grade PL, SP or MS (proof like, specimen proof).

    They then can carry designations as to cameo. C - cameo, HC- Heavey Cameo, UHC- Ultra Heavy Cameo.

    The SP's are mostly in the year 67 that I have seen.
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Mr Clankeye's DPOTD award on the subject
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    So the mint issued them in two flavors, specimen and regular, and some of the regular mint state coins are prooflike? Or am I reading this wrong?
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928 ✭
    Ah, back when I was running on all cylinders... those were the days.

    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • ClankeyeClankeye Posts: 3,928 ✭
    Xpipe--

    Most all of the coins issued by the mint as sets were either PL or SP.

    That is why every now and then you run across a coin graded MS and the bid is much higher than the PL's or SP's. Because, in truth they are rarer in high states of preservation.

    This is how it has been explained to me, and I see it played out on the Bay of E.

    I, like you, am still learning.

    Clankeye
    Brevity is the soul of wit. --William Shakespeare
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    So they released these coins for circulation, and offered two kinds of special collector sets?
  • oldshepoldshep Posts: 3,240 ✭
    and in ,I believe, 1981 they began to issue true "proof" sets....it's very confusing.
    Shep
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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So they released these coins for circulation, and offered two kinds of special collector sets? >>



    Yes! Prooflikes were used in the pliofilm sets and the silver medal sets (like oldshep's). Specimens were used for the $20 gold sets issued in black boxes. This was only the second time the RCM issued specimen sets in large numbers.

    Can anyone guess when the only time before 1967 specimen sets were made available to the general pubilc?
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